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How Do Podcasts Make Money? (+ My Million-Dollar Strategy)

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Updated on: Apr 16, 2025
How Do Podcasts Make Money? (+ My Million-Dollar Strategy)
Ramit Sethi
Host of Netflix's "How to Get Rich", NYT Bestselling Author & host of the hit I Will Teach You To Be Rich Podcast. For over 20 years, Ramit has been sharing proven strategies to help people like you take control of their money and live a Rich Life.

From sponsorships and affiliate links to live events, courses, and memberships, successful podcasters stack multiple income streams tailored to their audience. 

Here’s exactly how to monetize your show, with real examples of how I’ve run mine throughout the years, and what you need in place first to make it work.

1. Sponsorships And Advertising

Sponsorships are the most common way podcasters make money, especially for shows with larger audiences. Companies pay to have their products mentioned during your episodes, giving them access to your engaged listeners.

How direct sponsorships work

Sponsor deals are usually agreed upon in advance for a certain number of ads in future episodes, so no single episode will boost revenue. The better your episodes perform, the more of a boost your sponsors may get through increased listeners and impressions. Better performance leads to sponsors wanting to renew their deals with you.

Podcast sponsorships work on a CPM (cost per mille) basis, which means you get paid a set amount for every thousand downloads your podcast receives—typically $18-$25 per thousand listeners for a 30-second ad. The more people who listen, the more money you make.

Sponsors usually ask for a combination of personal endorsements and scripted messages, with authentic, conversational mentions of products working better than obviously scripted ads.

I use direct sponsorship in my podcasts. You can check out my episode with Juan and Amber discussing their money scripts to see where my sponsorships are placed.

I always list my sponsors prominently on YouTube descriptions and my website for complete transparency and to make it easy for listeners to access these offers.

For example, this is the sponsor list from the episode I mentioned above:

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If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here: https://iwt.com/apply

How to find your first sponsors

For podcasts to attract consistent sponsors, they typically need at least 15,000 to 20,000 downloads per episode. The specific characteristics of your target audience are also crucial. I review demographics from my podcast platforms, data from my courses, and conduct audience surveys to understand my listener base and their interests.

How well your content aligns with the sponsor's target market is key. Initial audience size gets sponsors in the door, but consistent performance keeps them renewing.

For smaller shows, consider starting with affiliate marketing to demonstrate value. This also trains your audience to expect ads from you. I don't recommend "programmatic ads," which could sound like a commercial read by someone else and could train your audience to skip ads automatically.

When starting with sponsorships:

One of my most important pieces of advice is not to jump into sponsorships and advertising right away. I waited about 1.5 years before starting to run ads because I wanted to focus on building a strong audience. If you’re at that point where you feel like it’s time, here are some tips:

  • Target niche sponsors that perfectly match your podcast's specific audience.
  • Create a simple media kit showing your listener numbers and demographics.
  • Look for brands that naturally fit with your podcast topic and audience interests.
  • Listen to similar podcasts to see who sponsors them, then reach out to those companies.
  • Join podcast advertising networks like LibSyn or Audacy to connect with sponsors.

Even smaller shows can attract sponsors if they have an extremely targeted, engaged audience that matches a specific brand's ideal customer profile.

Rate and agreement negotiations

Rates are around $18 to $25 per thousand listeners for a 30-second ad. If you're just starting and don't have a huge audience, negotiations can be time-consuming. Be prepared and keep negotiating.

Know your value before starting. Research standard rates for your listener numbers and be prepared to explain why your audience is valuable to the specific sponsor. Some sponsors want to start with a 3-5 episode trial before committing to longer terms. Use this to prove your value and negotiate better rates for extended contracts.

Get everything in writing, including payment terms, ad requirements, exclusivity clauses, and cancellation policies. Clear agreements protect both you and the sponsor from misunderstandings.

Ad placement strategies (pre-roll, mid-roll, post-roll)

For my podcast, I do host-read ads (not programmatic) and use DAI (Dynamically Ad Insertion) for audio platforms. This technology allows ads to be inserted into a content stream in real-time, enabling targeted and flexible ad delivery. Unlike traditional ads that are baked into the content, DAI can swap ad spots on the fly, allowing for more personalized and relevant ad experiences.

For example, we can place time-sensitive ads for Mother's Day in open slots throughout our entire back catalog of episodes. After Mother's Day, we can remove those ads and replace them with a new one. For YouTube, you can't do DAI, so our ads are baked into the video content.

Each placement option has different advantages

Here’s a breakdown of those advantages with different ad placement options:

  • Pre-roll ads appear at the beginning of your episode and typically run 15-30 seconds. They're usually cheaper than mid-roll ads because listeners might skip past them to get to the main content.
  • Mid-roll ads, placed in the middle of your content, are the most valuable ad spots since listeners are already engaged and less likely to skip them. These can run longer (60-90 seconds) and get higher rates.
  • Post-roll ads at the end of episodes are the least expensive because many listeners don't make it to the end of shows. However, listeners who reach the end are typically very engaged, making these spots valuable for certain offers. These are good starting points for new advertisers or for promoting your products.

Most podcasters use a combination of placements to capture different audience segments.

2. Products And Services

Creating and selling your own products can be more profitable than relying on sponsorships in the long run. This approach gives you complete control over pricing, messaging, and customer relationships.

Online courses and coaching

Online courses let you explore topics from your podcast in greater detail, often becoming your highest-revenue product once established. These can range from $97 quick courses to comprehensive programs priced at over $1,000.

Your podcast serves as the perfect marketing channel for courses. It allows you to demonstrate your expertise, share success stories, and offer small samples of what students will learn.

I have a robust suite of courses and programs. When it's a good fit, I recommend those courses in the podcast and earn revenue through course sales. I naturally promote my online programs through my podcast because my courses are about helping you achieve your Rich Life, and my podcast covers similar topics.

Individual or group coaching offers the highest revenue per client and allows you to work directly with listeners who want personalized guidance.

Books and ebooks

Publishing a book builds your credibility and creates another income stream that can continue paying for years. Your podcast audience gives you a built-in customer base for launch day.

Self-publishing platforms like Amazon KDP let you keep 70% of your e-book sales and about 60% of your print book sales. This makes them much more profitable than traditional publishing deals, which typically pay 10-15% royalties.

Your podcast episodes can help you test which topics resonate most with your audience before you invest months in writing a book, ensuring you focus on content that people want to buy.

As with my courses, I also mention my books, I Will Teach You To Be Rich and/or Money for Couples, when relevant to the topic. There’s usually a lot of overlap, because I sit with couples who need to figure out how to achieve that Rich Life.

Digital products (guides, templates)

Digital products like PDF guides, templates, or resource lists cost almost nothing to create and distribute but provide value to your listeners while generating passive income.

Good digital products solve specific problems mentioned in your podcast episodes. For example, if your podcast discusses productivity, you might sell a customizable planning template that helps listeners apply the advice you provide.

Pricing sweet spots typically range from $7 to $27 for smaller digital products, making them ideal for impulse purchases among engaged listeners who want to explore your content further.

Physical merchandise (t-shirts, mugs, etc.)

Podcast merch works twofold. It creates walking billboards for your show when fans wear your logo or catchphrases, while generating revenue from purchases.

Popular options include t-shirts, hoodies, stickers, and coffee mugs. You don't need to maintain inventory thanks to print-on-demand services like Printful, Teespring, or Spreadshop that handle production and shipping only after someone makes a purchase.

Focus on inside jokes, memorable quotes, or community symbols that make listeners feel part of an exclusive club rather than just generic podcast logos.

3. Affiliate Marketing

Affiliate marketing is often the easiest monetization method to start with, even for smaller podcasts. It requires no minimum audience size and can generate income from your very first episode if your recommendations are strong.

How affiliate programs work

Affiliate marketing lets you earn commissions by recommending products or services your listeners might find helpful. When someone makes a purchase through your unique tracking link, you receive a percentage of the sale.

Commission rates vary widely from around 5% for physical products to 50% or higher for digital products and courses. Software as a service (SaaS) companies often pay recurring commissions as long as the customer remains subscribed.

Unlike sponsorships that pay based on listener count, affiliate marketing pays only when you drive sales, making it accessible to podcasters with smaller but highly engaged audiences.

Product selection for your audience

Choosing the right products to promote is crucial for maintaining audience trust and maximizing your conversion rates:

  • Choose products you genuinely use and believe in. Your authentic enthusiasm will come through in your recommendations, which will lead to higher conversion rates.
  • Focus on tools, resources, and services that directly relate to your podcast topic and solve problems your audience faces. Listeners are more likely to purchase solutions to issues you've discussed in episodes.
  • Test different types of products to see what your audience responds to best. Some podcasts do well with higher-priced, occasional purchases, while others succeed with lower-cost, everyday items that listeners reorder regularly.

For affiliate marketing and sponsors, it's not just about finding the right audience. It needs to be something authentic to the host and their area of expertise. The ads and affiliates that perform the best are those where I personally use the product and have strong opinions on both the topic and the service they provide.

For example, if I discover that a huge percentage of my audience loves mountain biking but I don't mountain bike or care about it, reading an ad for a mountain bike won't convert well for our audience, even though they are interested in it.

Performance and conversion tracking

Tracking your affiliate performance is essential for optimizing your income:

  • Use unique affiliate links or promo codes for each product you promote to track performance.
  • Track which episodes and promotions generate the most sales.
  • Test different promotion methods, such as dedicated segments versus casual mentions.
  • Consider using tools like Pretty Links or ThirstyAffiliates to consolidate tracking.
  • Extend your affiliate promotions to your social media platforms for broader reach.

Many affiliate programs provide dashboards showing clicks, conversions, and earnings, making it easy to see what's working and adjust your strategy accordingly.

4. Live Events And Tours

Live events typically require a larger established audience to be profitable, but it’s a fun way to connect with your audience while expanding your profit margins.

Live podcast recording sessions

Live podcast recordings create unique experiences for your audience and provide fresh content for your show. Fans see behind the scenes and feel more connected to your process.

Ticket sales typically range from $15 to $50, depending on the audience size and location. Additional revenue is possible through VIP experiences, such as meet-and-greets or post-show gatherings.

Depending on the setting and your interests, you could also sell merchandise directly to your audience here.

I hosted a live recording in Chicago where I worked with two couples on their finances in front of an audience. The energy was incredible, and we captured content that simply wouldn't exist in a studio setting:

Workshop and seminar opportunities

While live shows entertain, workshops and seminars educate, and listeners will pay significantly more for education. I've found that workshops allow me to deliver concentrated value that's impossible in podcast format.

Unlike the $15-$50 price point of live shows, half-day workshops can command $99-$499 per person because they offer hands-on training and personalized feedback. The specialized knowledge you've built through your podcast becomes a premium product when delivered in this interactive format.

The most successful podcast-based workshops directly address specific problems your listeners consistently mention. This creates natural promotion opportunities in your regular episodes when those topics arise, without feeling forced or sales-focused.

Virtual events and webinars

Virtual events typically range from $10 to $100, with pricing based on duration, interactivity, and any supplemental materials. The key to getting higher prices is providing lasting value through downloadable workbooks, recordings, or post-event resources that extend the experience beyond the live session.

I recommend starting with free mini-workshops to perfect your delivery and gauge audience interest before launching paid offerings. Platforms like Zoom, Livestorm, and HeySummit handle the technical aspects, allowing you to focus on creating memorable content that drives both immediate revenue and long-term engagement.

5. Membership And Premium Content

Creating a membership program or a premium content tier generates recurring revenue while deepening your relationship with your most dedicated listeners.

How Patreon and similar platforms work for podcasters

Membership platforms like Patreon let your listeners support you with monthly payments ranging from $1 to over $100, in exchange for exclusive benefits and content.

These platforms handle all the technical aspects of processing payments, delivering premium content, and managing member access, typically charging a fee of 5-12% of your revenue.

Usually, multiple tiers with increasing benefits and exclusive content at each level allow supporters to choose their comfort level while encouraging upgrades over time.

Premium content strategies (bonus episodes, early access)

Creating compelling premium content is essential for attracting and retaining paying members:

  • Bonus episodes that explore topics that didn't fit in your main show.
  • Early access to regular episodes (typically 1-7 days before public release).
  • Ad-free versions of your episodes for uninterrupted listening.
  • Extended interviews or "cutting room floor" content from regular episodes.
  • Behind-the-scenes looks at your production process or topic research.

These exclusive benefits give fans clear value for their membership fees while requiring minimal additional production time from you.

Community benefits (discord servers, exclusive groups)

Private community spaces, such as Discord servers or Facebook groups, give paying supporters direct access to you and each other, creating valuable networking and discussion opportunities.

These communities often become self-sustaining as members build relationships and provide value to one another, reducing the time needed to engage while still delivering a premium personal experience.

Exclusive Q&A sessions, content voting privileges, or behind-the-scenes updates in these communities make members feel like insiders and part of your creative process.

Listener involvement (topic voting, Q&A episodes)

Allowing members to vote on future episode topics or submit questions for regular Q&A episodes directly influences your content while making your planning easier.

Name recognition in episodes, such as thanking patrons or answering their specific questions, provides a powerful motivator for continued support, as people enjoy hearing their names mentioned.

Member-only feedback sessions or surveys make supporters feel valued, while also giving you invaluable insights into what your most dedicated fans want from your show.

6. Crowdfunding And Listener Support

Crowdfunding differs from membership programs because it relies on one-off donations rather than long-term relationships with listeners.

One-time donation options

Adding "tip jar" options to your website or episode descriptions lets appreciative listeners support you with one-time donations without committing to a monthly membership.

Creating specific fundraising campaigns for equipment upgrades, special projects, or milestone episodes gives listeners clear goals to support and can generate significant one-time revenue boosts.

The main advantage is that you can integrate it right from the beginning, even with a small audience.

Ko-fi, Buy Me A Coffee, and similar platforms

The psychology behind these platforms is fascinating. Asking someone to "buy me a coffee" feels much more approachable than "donate to my podcast." It frames support as a simple, everyday gesture rather than a formal contribution.

Platforms like Ko-fi and Buy Me A Coffee have perfected the low-friction donation process. Listeners can contribute $3-$ 5 in just a few clicks, often while feeling an immediate emotional connection right after an episode.

How Do I Make Money In My Podcast?

My podcast monetization strategy focuses on quality over quantity. The primary revenue stream for my "Money for Couples" podcast is through carefully selected sponsorships. I took a patient approach, building my audience for a full 18 months before introducing any ads. This allowed me to establish trust and deliver value before asking listeners for anything in return.

I'm extremely selective about my sponsors. Each brand must align perfectly with my audience's needs and interests, represent high value, and be something I can authentically recommend. This selectivity means turning down many potential sponsors, but it preserves the trust I've built with my listeners.

Besides that, my podcast also makes money from sales of my courses and programs, which naturally complement the podcast content. When listeners want to go deeper on topics we discuss, these products provide that opportunity without feeling disconnected from the podcast experience.

Funnel Your Podcast Listeners to Your Email List

Email lists are the secret amplifier for all other monetization methods. While not a direct revenue source, a strong email list enhances every income stream by giving you direct access to your audience outside the podcast platforms.

Why email lists matter for income generation

Email lists give you direct access to your audience outside of podcast platforms. They let you promote products, events, or membership programs without competing with other shows in podcast apps.

Email subscribers are typically 5-10 times more likely to buy products or join membership programs than podcast-only listeners because they've taken an extra step to connect with you.

Unlike social media or podcast platforms, where algorithms control who sees your content, email lists let you reach nearly 100% of your subscribers directly in their inboxes.

For a big picture of how much you can make running a podcast, check out my article, How Much do Podcasters Make (+how mine makes me millions).

Lead magnets for podcast listeners

Lead magnets, such as checklists, templates, or resource guides mentioned in your episodes, give listeners a reason to visit your website and share their email addresses in exchange for valuable content.

The most effective lead magnets solve specific problems discussed in your episodes, creating natural opportunities to mention them when those topics arise.

Different lead magnets for each episode help you segment your email list based on listener interests, allowing for more targeted promotions based on the specific topics each subscriber cares about.

Listener to subscriber conversion

Converting podcast listeners into email subscribers requires a clear strategy:

  • Include clear calls to action in every episode, directing listeners to your website.
  • Create dedicated landing pages for podcast listeners that reference specific episodes.
  • List the benefits of joining your email list, such as exclusive content and special offers.
  • Offer episode-specific resources that complement what they just heard.
  • Make the signup process quick and painless with minimal required fields.

Email marketing strategies for podcasters

Regular newsletters that blend valuable free content with occasional promotions maintain subscriber engagement while creating natural opportunities to mention your products or services.

Episode highlight emails, which summarize key points from recent shows, serve listeners who might have missed episodes while subtly encouraging them to return to your podcast.

Automated email sequences triggered when someone subscribes let you introduce new members to your best content and offers without requiring ongoing work for each new subscriber.

Conversion success measurement

Tracking which podcast episodes drive the most email signups helps you identify the topics that most motivate listener action and informs future content planning.

Email analytics, which show open rates, click rates, and conversion rates for different types of messages, can help you tailor your strategy to the approaches that resonate best with your audience.

Attribution tracking through unique links or coupon codes lets you measure exactly how much revenue your email list generates compared to direct podcast promotions or other marketing channels.

Of course, being in business for over 15 years and leveraging my email list helped me get early listeners. The Netflix show also helped bring a surge of new listeners. This might not apply to most people starting, but that's the reality of how we quickly built our audience.

What Your Podcast Needs Before Monetizing

Before you can effectively monetize your podcast, you need to establish several foundational elements that will support your revenue strategies.

High-quality content

I started my podcast journey incredibly simply. Instead of investing thousands in equipment and planning dozens of episodes, I experimented with casual "fireside chats" on Instagram during the pandemic.

When people started writing to ask for help with their finances, I spotted an opportunity. The podcast evolved naturally as I started coaching couples through their money psychology and relationship challenges.

My early episodes were bare-bones—basic audio, minimal editing, no fancy production. As listeners responded, I gradually improved each element. First came better music, then video content after 18 months, followed by graphics and longer-term follow-ups with guests.

This gradual approach let me build a genuinely engaged audience before attempting monetization. Many podcasters do the opposite—they buy premium equipment, record a few episodes, then quit when monetization proves difficult or they lose interest.

The content itself matters far more than production quality. I focused on delivering unique insights that solved real problems for my listeners.

Here are some helpful articles that might help you get started with this:

Professional equipment

Good audio quality signals professionalism to listeners and potential sponsors. I recommend a decent microphone, headphones, and basic editing software.

You don't need expensive equipment to start. A $100-200 USB microphone, a pop filter, and a quiet recording space can produce professional-sounding episodes that won't drive listeners away.

As your show grows, gradually upgrade your equipment using revenue from early monetization rather than investing thousands upfront before proving your concept.

My recommended starter gear

Keep it extremely simple when starting, unless you have a background in audio or video. A USB microphone and a high-quality webcam (if you're doing video) are plenty to get started with. The main trick to making a standard webcam look great is good lighting.

Here's the exact gear list my very own podcast production team recommends for starting:

This setup gives you professional quality without overwhelming complexity. Remember, your content matters more than having the fanciest equipment. Start with the basics and upgrade as your audience grows.

An engaged audience

Building an engaged audience requires delivering on the promises you make about your content and appreciating your listeners.

Engagement matters more than raw download numbers for monetization. A smaller audience that trusts your recommendations generates more revenue than a larger but passive listenership.

Responding to listener feedback creates a cycle where audience members feel heard, become more engaged, and are more likely to support your monetization efforts.

Consistency in publishing

Reliable publishing schedules let your audience know when to expect new content, helping them build the habit of returning to your show.

Don't commit to more than you can handle. Whether weekly, biweekly, or monthly, consistency matters more than frequency.

Content calendars planned weeks help maintain your schedule during busy periods, preventing momentum loss and gaps in audience attention.

Communicating clearly about schedule changes respects your listeners' time and maintains trust, which becomes increasingly important as you ask them to invest financially in your show.

Biggest Mistakes Podcasts Make When Trying To Make Money

After years of running my podcast, I've identified four critical mistakes that consistently undermine monetization efforts:

Monetizing too early

Trying to monetize before building a solid audience often doesn't work out well. Listeners need time to develop trust in your voice and content before they respond to monetization efforts. I waited a full 18 months before introducing ads to my Money for Couples podcast because I wanted to get the show right first.

Picking the wrong brands

Not carefully selecting sponsors that align with your podcast's audience hurts both your credibility and conversion rates. I'm extremely selective about my sponsors—they must be a perfect fit for my audience and something I can authentically recommend. When there's a mismatch between the host, audience, and sponsor, everyone loses.

Finding the right ad balance for your audience

Overloading listeners with advertisements can reduce revenue by driving people away from your show. Quality beats quantity with podcast ads. I've found that fewer, more authentic sponsor mentions perform much better than cramming multiple ads into each episode.

We currently run 5 mid-roll ads in every episode, which we've found to be our sweet spot. We didn't start there, though. We began with just 2 ads and gradually increased as we found the right sponsors and understood our audience's tolerance. Some networks push creators to have 6 or more, but what matters is finding the right balance for your specific show and listeners. Test different amounts and pay attention to audience feedback.

Starting with programmatic ads

My ad sales consultants specifically warned that using generic programmatic ads early on trains audiences to treat all ads like "TV commercials you should skip." This makes it harder to introduce meaningful, host-read advertisements later, potentially reducing long-term monetization potential.

How to Build a Sustainable Podcast Income Strategy

Creating a sustainable podcast business requires thoughtful planning around how your various revenue streams work together rather than competing with each other.

Have multiple income streams

Relying on a single monetization method makes your podcast financially vulnerable to changes in platform policies, sponsor decisions, or market shifts beyond your control.

Very few podcasters rely solely on advertising or affiliate marketing. Most use a combination of several of the above.

Different income streams often complement each other, making the others more effective. For example, sponsorships build credibility that helps sell your products, while your email list amplifies both of these.

Starting with 2-3 monetization methods that align well with your content and gradually expanding gives you the security of multiple revenue sources without overwhelming your production capacity.

Choose the right monetization method for your audience

Consider your audience demographics and interests when choosing monetization strategies. Business professionals might purchase courses, while hobbyist communities prefer merchandise or memberships.

Ask your listeners directly, through surveys or episode feedback, about what products or services they would value most from you, rather than guessing or copying other podcasts in different niches.

Test small versions of different monetization methods to see which ones resonate before making major investments. For example, offer a mini-course before creating a comprehensive program or sell limited-run merchandise before ordering in bulk.

Use this implementation timeline

Start with low-effort monetization methods, such as affiliate marketing or basic tip jars, while building your audience, and add more complex strategies as your show grows.

Space out new monetization launches to avoid overwhelming your audience with too many support requests at once, as this can lead to listener fatigue and resistance.

Allow 3-6 months for each new monetization method to gain traction before judging its success, as listeners often need multiple exposures to offers before taking action.

Set realistic income goals

Most podcasts take 12-24 months to generate a significant income, with the first year focused primarily on building an audience rather than maximizing revenue.

Set graduated income targets based on your audience size and engagement level rather than comparing them to top shows. A good benchmark is $1 to $ 2 per regular listener per year, combined across all revenue streams.

Track your hour-to-income ratio to ensure podcasting remains sustainable. As your show grows, adjust your monetization to ensure the time invested aligns with reasonable compensation for your efforts.

Balance between monetization and content quality

The relationship between your content and monetization efforts requires ongoing attention:

  • Maintain a healthy ratio between content and promotion. Schedule dedicated content planning sessions separate from monetization strategy meetings to ensure serving your audience remains your primary focus.
  • Listen carefully to audience feedback about your promotional approach and be willing to adjust if listeners express frustration with your monetization style or frequency.
  • Remember that long-term audience trust generates more revenue than aggressive short-term monetization tactics.

When creating content, prioritize quality over everything else.

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