Live webcast w/Tim Ferriss this Wednesday, 9pm EST

Ramit Sethi

Come join a romantic date with Tim Ferriss and me Wednesday, 11/21, at 9pm. Yes, there will be wine. I had my assistant tell his assistant to bring it.

Tim has a new book out — The 4-Hour Chef — and I’ll be grilling him about:

  • Does he hate me because I have someone cook for me, instead of using his recipes? Can we still be friends?
  • Why is his book actually about how to learn (how to get VIP treatment at restaurants and bars, how to memorize a deck of cards in less than 60 seconds, how to use food for seduction), rather than just a list of recipes?
  • Why is his book is banned by 700+ stores across the USA?

Since we’ll be drinking large amounts of wine, we’ll probably veer into talking about productivity, travel, angel investing, and whatever else you guys want to know.

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  1. Josh

    Perhaps I’m the first person to tell you this, but you hurt your credibility a lot by associating with Tim Ferriss. Typically when his name is brought up it is in the same breath as Aleksey Vayner.

    • Ramit Sethi

      If you think so, don’t attend. No hard feelings!

      There are plenty of other people (including me) who have a lot to learn from Tim.

    • Josh

      And what have you done for the world? Tim has helped countless individuals change their lives including myself. You just sit there at your computer and criticize… Uplift millions of people, donate to charities, and contribute towards the greater good. Then perhaps your comments will have some credibility.

  2. Mr. X


    Longtime IWT community member here. Unlike the previous poster Josh, I don’t think you’re hurting your credibility by associating with Tim. But it got me thinking. The two of you have very different approaches for living a rich life (or as Tim says, living the good life.)

    Ramit recommends that his readers focus on active income. Become top performers at their careers. Earn money on the side by providing a valuable service. Prove their value in order to negotiate their salary and raise their rates. (Unsexy, but effective.)

    Tim (although he doesn’t use this term) recommends that his readers focus on passive income (Ramit is currently cringing after reading that phrase.) In 4HWW, Tim explains his process of setting up an automated business so we can earn tens of thousands per month while Tango dancing in Argentina. (Very sexy.)

    These methods seem mutually exclusive. But here’s the crazy part: Ramit and Tim used very different methods, but they’re both (by anyone’s definition) living a rich life.

    We have limited time, energy, and willpower. Ramit, you’ve written before that one of your fears was wasting these resources by focusing on the wrong things. Many young professionals (including me) have the same fear. We have limitless choices about how to spend these resources. We can spend more effort to become top performers in our careers. Or we can focus less on our careers, and instead earn money on the side. We can earn money by providing a service or by selling a product.

    Let’s be honest. It sounds awesome to have an automated business earn money for me while I sleep. On the other end of the spectrum is my parents’ and grandparents’ invisible script, which says “You have a good job. Work hard and save up a million dollars in 30 years.”

    I’m not a fan of emotional decisions. So I’d love to hear you and Tim discuss this on the webcast tonight: What process can I use to decide how best to use my limited resources (time, money, energy, willpower) in order to live a rich life?

    With your very different approaches, I think it could spark an interesting discussion. One last thing, this is a serious question that took me some time to articulate. As a longtime reader, I know you like to make fun of us, which is completely cool. I only ask that if you choose to address this question, please spend some time seriously discussing it (then feel free to make fun of us.)

    Can’t wait for tonight.

    • Ramit Sethi

      Good question. I’ll see if we can get to this. Thanks for asking it, Mr. X.

    • Tim Ferriss

      Hi Mr. X,

      Great question. I’d be excited to discuss this with Ramit. I suspect more shared DNA than you might think.

      All the best,

      Tim Ferriss

  3. J.P.

    I’ve read the book, and I’m not really impressed with the expertise that T.F. presents to the reader. I’ve done something similar to what T.F. has done in the past year, by going from non-cooking bachelor who couldn’t survive without a microwave oven and take-out, to one who can cook not only for himself, but also for others when company visits. For those who are about to make a similar transition, I can’t really recommend this book.

    There are three categories of cooking books out there: 1) Recipe Binders….most cooking books are simply condensed into a collection of good, time-tested recipes, like Good Housekeeping or Betty Crocker recipes; 2) How-To Books….about a third of the books follow this format, with instructionals on certain techniques to help bring out the best from your cooking, ranging from “….For Dummies” books, to Julia Child’s french cooking books topping the list; 3) The How-and-Why Books….THIS is the apex of cooking books, where you not only get great recipes AND how-to guides behind excelling at preparing them, but also the “why” behind it….”you should try to always whip/scramble eggs in a copper bowl, as the copper ionizes the proteins in the egg whites, which produces fluffier eggs” (per Alton Brown). Bittman’s “How to Cook Everything” and Alton Brown’s “Good Eats” books are the current kings of this domain, and remain so even with T.F.’s recent introduction into this market.

    Hey, I’m entertained by T.F.’s antics as much as the next guy, but this book isn’t for serious learning on how to be a chef, and it only meets the reader half-way on teaching them fundamental cooking skills. A much better recommendation would be Mark Bittman’s “How to Cook Everything: The Basics.” as a primer, then move on to one of Brown’s “Good Eats” collections for more intermediate-level learning. From there, you can branch out to what you like, be it baking, grilling, frying, french cooking, etc.

    As for 4HC, again, it’s an entertaining read, but it’s not about learning how to cook. It’s more about publishing for the fan-boys/girls. Any book that has to have reviewers explain “meta-learning” to cooking for it’s readers fails immediately. I want to cook great meals for my friends and family, and I don’t have time to waste on applying the 80/20 rule to cooking while doing so.

    • shane

      Hey guy, the 80/20 principal is SPECIFICALLY about saving time. So saying that you don’t have time to waste on it is analytically oxymoronic and… just silly.

    • CJ

      If that is your review, you did not understand his book. It teaches you how to learn, which is much more powerful then learning how to cook.
      Trying to compare this book with other cook books is like comparing apples and pine cones.

  4. Mike K

    Why would you make this on the busiest bar night of the year?????

    You’re killing me….now I must think of excuse not to hang with my gf.

    • Mr. X

      Hey man, if Ramit and Tim are going to be drinking, why shouldn’t we? Pour a glass of your favorite fermented beverage and pregame the bars with some best selling authors.

  5. Susan

    I, for one, will simply move my computer to the kitchen so I can keep baking pies, making rolls, and prepping casseroles for tomorrow’s pig-out. Like Julia Child, I can easily do that while drinking wine, too. (Sorry folks, but being old really gives me an edge here. All the cooking stuff is memorized from years of practice, so no thought is required.)

    I, too, believe in Ramit’s formulas for financial decisions, versus Timothy’s. However, I look forward to picturing two such different personalities putting on a show. I watched both of them teach courses on CreativeLive and have to say I learned a lot from Ramit, but was tremendously entertained by Tim. Ramit is brash and willing to tell us like it is. Tim is so mellow and polite I can’t imagine him calling me an idiot–even when appropriate.

    At 9 EST, let the games begin! BTW, are you drinking red or white, grape or other fruit, or something totally different? I’m opening the first bottle from my batch of this year’s dandelion wine, in memory of Ray Bradbury.

  6. Olawale Daniel

    Great to have the privilege of watching Tim Ferris once again live after the last week show he did.
    Tim is a great guy who I am looking up to as a motivation in the business field – I believe I can learn more other things tonight.

    Thanks Ramit for your kindness

  7. Dean Saliba

    Looks like I picked a perfect time to check my Google Reader. 🙂 I only heard about Tim Ferris recently and I am already turning into a fan of his and the thought of getting in on a webinar is great. 🙂

  8. Adam Sand

    I have been following Tim for quite some time now. Haven’t been able to design my lifestyle quite as much as I would like to for a number of reasons.

    1. My previous occupation was working in the oilfield and owning a tanning salon. Hard to outsource my body to be beaten to a pulp by manual labour. Also hard to outsource the collective ass kissing that is required of pretty teenaged white girls with no brains in tanning salons. Quit rigs and sold the salon. Not for a whole lot of money either unfortunately because I suck at things like… being organized… which is intrinsically linked with paying taxes. Sell business, pay off 3 years taxes. Square one reached…

    2. New job – marketing director is underpaid, but I HAVE created an app for tanning salons that can be sold as a Software as a Service, designed and business maintained by outsourced people and ultimately if I can get the whole “getting salons to buy it” part down. Then I COULD design my lifestyle.

    This comes at a perfect time when I could use a kick in the pants and an uplifting moment from the main man Tim. Also if there is some kind of similar dna but opposing view from Ramit character that I have never heard of. I can see this being of great value regardless of Josh’s cup of chilled Hater-aid served at the onset of this post. Honestly bud, negativity does not get you very far in this world. Cynicism can and will, but negativity is not the same thing.

    Looking forward to it guys!

  9. Jballz

    Always a little perplexed by the Tim haters… Takes subjects that are synonymous with charlatanism and refines them into pragmatic and applicable concepts. Not for everyone I guess… My own bias I would not waste four seconds on something as pandering and overtly lame as I will teach you to be rich dot com… But if Tim’s in I will assume he has merit and check out the show….

  10. Jason

    Anyway to watch this somewhere? I had to leave when it went live and really wanted to see this……..Please?

  11. Ricky

    Wow at that dude JP. “I don’t have time to waste doing 80/20” is a hilariously appropriate conclusion to that spectacularly moronic review of Tim’s book. Congrats. For someone whose quite unimpressed with Tim (yet got his book the day it came out and already read all 600+ pages) you still managed to completely miss the point.

  12. m4r10

    I am also interested in a recording of this conversation.
    Perhaps Tim and/or Ramit can put this up ?

    Thanks in advance,


    • Dan

      I’d be really interested in a recording too. Had to go to work half way through and feel like I missed some killer stuff

  13. Lorraine

    I caught part of the conversation (due to hiliday gathering). Will there at least be a transcript available? I’m particularly interested in the part where you both list your mentors.

  14. Anne-Marie

    Even though I am a regular reader of your blogs (yours and Tim’s), I learned so much with that livestream. I got pearls of wisdom from Tim that I will definitely try applying. Ramit you did such a good job, I am very impressed.
    It has been a long time that I had such an interesting evening.
    Thank you Ramit, thank you Tim, keep up the good work!

  15. Susan

    Thanks for the wonderful video. Because some of the info was densely packed, would it be possible to send out a list of books and mentors recommended during the video? I tried to take notes, but boy, you both can talk quickly (and there were a few audio glitches). I hope you can do this, even if at a small charge. Thanks again.

  16. Franklyn

    I caught a few minutes of it, so sorry I had holiday commitments…does anyone have a cliff notes summary of the talk?

  17. Juan

    Please make the video, audio or transcript available. I could not watch it live.
    Anyone have a summary?

  18. Dan

    @Ramit – Just so you know (if you care..?) I would happily pay $5-$10 for you to record these webinars you do and email them to me.

    If you give me your paypal I will pay you $10 right now to buy a recording of you interviewing Tim Ferriss for the 4 Hour Chef.

  19. dave

    Any way I can get a transcript of the interview?

  20. Alexander

    Hi Ramit,

    Is there any way for us europeens to access the webinar in any way?

  21. Coco J. Ginger

    Alright, I’ll come, but only for the wine and conversation 🙂

  22. Sarah

    Interesting set of questions. They made me curious about reading his book. I am looking forward to hear your conversation and of course have a sip of the wine.

  23. Sheri

    I would love to know how Tim’s new book The 4-Hour Chef is different from his book The 4-Hour Work Week. I’ll need to do research.