Why Most People Fail at Making Online Products (And How You Can Win)

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A confession: I’ve left millions of dollars on the table by not developing a course about how to build your own online product and sell it on the Internet. My courses have sold well over $100,000 in one hour, and I get asked about how I did it over and over.

It would be relatively easy to teach. I could build a product teaching you how to build a product (now we’re getting meta), including sharing actual sales data, the tactics I use for product launches, my sales copy, the biggest mistakes I’ve made, and conversion rates for various techniques. The product would handily make me 7 figures.

Unfortunately, the blunt truth is, I don’t believe most people will ever be successful building online products. This isn’t just a condescending “I can do it but you can’t” view. No, the data backs this up. The vast majority of people who try to create online products fail — like 99%+. This is the elephant graveyard where the dream of passive income goes to die.

See, to succeed with an online product, not only do you have to be extremely good at your area of expertise and know the basics of marketing — including identifying your niche, pricing, finding customers, etc — you then have to learn all about productization: packaging, upsells, cross-sells, advertising, email funnels, JVs/affiliates, refunds, customer service, sales-page construction, A/B testing, continuity programs, etc.

Unlikely. If we’re being honest, most people have enough trouble mastering the first part of the equation (creating something other people will pay for), much less learning the rare skills of productization. Think about it: Would a personal trainer have you do 400-lb squats on Day 1? No, he would start you off with light lifting to perfect your form.

Why would I sell something — even if it could make me millions of dollars — when I know the vast majority of people won’t be successful? The money does not motivate me if you’re not seeing measurable success. Remember, IWT was never about making me money. It was and is about behavioral change. There are tons of ways I could make easy money, but I have no interest in creating a product about creating a product when the vast majority of people will fail. (I encourage you to read The $75,000 Email, a story about turning down easy money because I simply wasn’t interested in it.)

And yet people continue to email me about launching an online product. Recently, there have been more and more successful “micro-products,” which don’t require years of investment and waiting to judge success. Instead, many of these products are high-quality and take only a few months to produce. And with new marketing techniques, they can quickly produce ROI. If the product fails, it’s only a few months and a few hundred bucks out of your life. But if it succeeds, it could be a game-changer.

I haven’t written much about these products, but today, I’ve invited my friend Chris Guillebeau to write about how to build an online product. Chris writes a fascinating blog called The Art of Non Conformity, where he catalogues his goal of traveling to every country by the age of 35 (a goal he’ll hit next year). He’s created several products and has had multiple $100,000+ launch days, so you should listen to him. In fact, he reveals specific numbers below.

Beneath his friendly exterior (and he really is a friendly guy, a lot nicer than I am) is an extremely sophisticated marketing mind that’s built a massive business with customers around the world. And in this post, he’ll show you how to begin creating a product for only $100.

Chris — take it away.

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Why Most People Fail at Making Online Products (And How You Can Win)

The infoproduct was launched with much fanfare. A pre-launch campaign, a series of guest posts to bring the message to a new audience, the recruitment of affiliates who would all sound the alarm on the big day.

But then the big day came, and nothing happened. Or at least, nothing exciting happened. A few people purchased, perhaps even a decent number… but far from the expected flood of customers. After a day or two, sales slowed to a trickle.

What went wrong?

One way to look at it is to say that the person wasn’t ready. They should have spent more time paying dues, serving as an apprentice, and learning from others.

But consider the case of two individuals, both of whom created massive success by ignoring these prerequisites… and then consider what other people usually get wrong when trying to replicate these successes.

Case #1: Brett Kelly

Two years ago, Brett had a great family, a steady commitment to Happy Hour microbrews, and a full set of tattoos. What he didn’t have was a huge Twitter network (just 1,000 followers at the time) or a popular blog. He wasn’t a WordPress celebrity, and he hadn’t spent years learning online marketing.

What he did have, however, was a passion for Evernote, the free software that saves “everything” in the cloud. Brett noticed that while there were several Japanese language manuals for helping users get the most of Evernote, there were none in English. Thus he set out to create Evernote Essentials, a comprehensive guide offering tips, tutorials, and shortcuts.

Brett offered the guide online for $25 and made $10,000 in the first couple of days after launch, allowing his wife Joann to quit her job and stay home from the kids. Over the next few months, sales were consistent, surpassing $300 on most days and never slowing down.

I wrote about Brett’s whole story in my new book, but I had to keep revising the details as his income grew. At first I said it was an $80,000 project, making almost that much each year in profit. Then Brett wrote in with a correction, which I forwarded to my editor. “It’s now on track to clear six-figures.”

Another month went by and Brett wrote in with another correction, which I dutifully sent along. “Uh, it’s a $120,000 ebook now.” Then it was $160,000. By that point, my editor had stopped responding to me, so I just sent one final addendum: “Just say that it makes a lot of money.”

Why has this product been so successful, without the usual formula of affiliate recruitment and a “big audience push”? It’s simple: Brett made something useful. It was simple to make, easy to understand, and the marketplace responded well.

Case #2: Brandon Pearce

In 2009, Brandon Pearce was living in Utah and had a day job as an engineer while teaching music on the side. But Brandon was also intensely curious, and wanted to combine an interest in technology with his passion for music education. As he thought about colleagues he knew, he found the convergence point between his skill and what they needed.

“Music teachers don’t want to deal with business administration; they want to teach music,” he told me. “But in the typical music teacher’s workday, they have to spend much of their time dealing with administrative tasks.” Scheduling, rescheduling, sending reminders—in addition to time, all these things take up a lot of attention and distract from teaching. Furthermore, many music teachers aren’t making all the money they should, since payments are sometimes overlooked and students fail to show up.

Brandon didn’t intend to create a business at first; he just wanted to solve what he called the “disorganized music teacher problem” for himself. The answer was Music Teacher’s Helper, an interface that Brandon created for personal use before turning it into a one-stop platform for music teachers of all kinds. The teachers could create their own websites (without having any technical skills) and handle all aspects of scheduling and billing, thus enabling them to focus on the actual teaching they enjoyed.

The service is available in several different versions, including a free version for limited use and going up to a $588 a year version depending on the number of students.

Three years later, Brandon’s life is quite different. Instead of living in Utah, he now wakes up in sunny Escazú, Costa Rica, where he lives with his wife and three young daughters. He has ten employees living in different places around the world. He carefully tracks his time and estimates that he spends eight to fifteen hours a week directly related to the business. The rest of his time is spent with his family and on various side projects that he pursues for fun.

Oh, and one more thing: Music Teacher’s Helper is currently on track to earn at least $360,000 a year. Because his customers commit for the long-term and pay monthly, it’s unlikely that this number will ever go down. Instead, it will continue to increase as more and more music teachers join the ranks.

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Are stories like Brett’s and Brandon’s unusual? Yes and no.

When most people launch an online product for the first time, they don’t have results like these. Instead, results are more typical of the example from the beginning of the post: lots of work, but little reward.

But here’s my assertion: You don’t need to build a huge audience or wait forever to make an online product. You do, however, need to be sure that what you offer is actually valuable and desirable.

The first time I made an online product, I had just started blogging a few months earlier. A manifesto I published had done well and I was actively recruiting new readers, but my subscriber count was still less than 2,000 people.

As I traveled the world, writing about my trips, I noticed that a few recurring questions kept popping up in my Inbox. Everyone wanted to know the same things: how I book airfare, where the best deals were, how to set up a round-the-world plane ticket, and so on. (Bonus lesson: if you find yourself being asked the same kinds of questions over and over, pay attention.)

In response, I decided to create a small ebook called “Discount Airfare Guide.” I know—what a boring title. I launched the product with little fanfare and no hype, just a sense of curiosity as to how my small readership would respond.

The first day I sold a grand total of 35 copies for $25 each, a profit of just over $800. Even though the product was fairly simple, I had still put a ton of work into it. I’d estimate the time cost to be somewhere around 50 hours, so my initial earnings-per-hour rate was less than $20. Seventeen bucks an hour wasn’t bad, of course, but I’d hardly end up crashing Sethi Mansion at that rate.

Even though the product had a tiny launch and a poor initial conversion rate, I was comforted by two facts:

1. I had created an asset. Now that this product was done, I didn’t have to do anything else for it. It could sell poorly, but as long as it continued to sell at all, I’d essentially be making free money.

2. I knew the model would work. At first, I avoided creating a complex product, offering more than one pricing option, adding audio and video, thinking about how I’d get paid after the sale, and so on—but once I realized I could succeed even with a basic online product, I got to work building the next one out further.

The next product was the Working for Yourself guide. It still wasn’t fancy, but it was a bit more deliberate. I put a lot more than 50 hours into it—probably closer to 100 hours or more. I offered two price tiers for the guide, and I recorded a couple of audio sessions to accompany the written text.

On the day of launch, I pressed the button to make it live… and by that afternoon it had sold $5,000 in copies. This may be a small number in the eyes of some internet marketers, but I felt incredibly happy and grateful.

Later I would go on to sell $100,000 in a day, multiple times. I’d figure out how to build a continuity program with thousands of members paying every month. But all of those things were secondary—the real success started with understanding that online products could actually work if I took the time to create them properly.

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What makes the difference between success and failure—and how can you avoid falling on your face? To be more like Brett or Brandon and less like the all-too-common failure story, it’s not that hard. You just need to beware of a few common (but deadly) mistakes that most people make when offering an online product for the first time.

Mistake #1: Failing to understand what customers really want.

The two case studies hit on something significant—the perception of value combined with a focus on a core need. Whatever you choose to create, remember that most of us want more of some things and less of others. We want more time, money, love, sex, affirmation, and validation. Meanwhile, we want less stress, uncertainty, fear, and hassle.

These characteristics are connected to a singular, simple concept: happiness. The more you can connect your project to happiness, the better. Focus your efforts on adding more of what customers want or removing something that causes them pain, and that’s where you’ll find the central promise of a strong online product.

By the way, most people will not buy generic, self-help info. (Yes, some might—but the point is, most people won’t.) Someone wrote in and suggested that I create the Unconventional Guide to Mentoring. I said that it sounds like a great free project. Regardless of its merit, the odds that a lot of people would buy that guide are quite low.

Instead, you need specificity. You need actionable info. “Earn 1k” is a good example from Ramit, and “Earn 100,000 Frequent Flyer Miles a Year (enough for four plane tickets)” is one from me.

Mistake #2: Misunderstanding the whole concept of “target market.”

To understand the people who will buy what you sell, stop asking your friends what they think of your ideas. First of all, your friends don’t want to tell you that your idea sucks. Instead, they’ll usually say, “Dude, that’s great!”

Consider this recent conversation between Ramit and me:

Chris: Ramit, I love you. What do you think about my new project, “Growing seeds for fun and profit?” I’m trying to decide on the right pricing model.

Ramit: Check out all my Starwood points! I’m going to Vegas and upgrading to a suite!

Among other concerns, your friends probably don’t actually know if the idea sucks or not. Unless you’re selling Mary Kay or Amway, your friends are not your ideal customers—or at least, they shouldn’t be. It’s not really about a selectively-defined “target market” anyway—it’s about the people who will actually buy what you sell.

When you do ask questions of advisors or potential customers, be sure to ask questions that will actually be useful. Asking “Do you think this is a good idea?” is the WRONG question. Asking “Would you buy this?” and “If so, how much would you pay for it?” is much better.

Mistake #3: Focusing too much on the product, and not enough on the marketing.

The best graphic design in the world will not matter if no one buys your product. In fact, it’s not about the “quality” of your product at all—it’s about the perceived usefulness. This factor matters more than anything else.

Do not slave away for months in a cave, making something that isn’t proven to work. That’s why Ramit conducts so much research in advance of creating a new product—he wants to make sure his time is spent well, so he can spend more of it checking out the set of jacuzzis in his Vegas living room.

Instead of building the product first, construct the offer first. Then, write the sales letter or whatever copy you will use when pitching it. Think about the ultimate value you will deliver to people and focus on that throughout. Then build the actual product with this end-goal in mind. Remember, even if you have a 3% conversion rate, 97% of people will never see your actual product—so don’t neglect the parts they will see.

Mistake #4: Failing to change your customers’ lives.

When you make something for the world, it doesn’t matter how many pages the PDF is, how much you slaved over the audio recordings, or how awesome YOU are. What matters is the ultimate marketing question: “What’s in it for me?”

Fundamentally, the product should change people’s lives. You may be familiar with the idea of focusing on benefits instead of features. This is good advice, but what ultimately matters is what will be different after your customer experiences your product.

One final note: no matter how you focus your money-making efforts, a lot of people will encourage you to “become comfortable with failure” and “learn to fail quickly.” WTF? Here’s a better idea: become comfortable with success. Learn to succeed quickly. You can start with your very first project and hit the jackpot, just like Brett and Brandon did.

In different ways, Brandon and Brett show the power of creating powerful online products that earn significant money—without being experienced or having a huge audience.

Useful. Desirable. Money in the bank. Forget about failure—follow this model and you’ll succeed.

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Chris Guillebeau’s new book, The $100 Startup, chronicles the lessons of 70 ordinary people who created businesses with no special skills and a small amount of money. He also writes for a small army of remarkable people at ChrisGuillebeau.com.

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  1. Hi Chris, and congratulations on the launch – I’m expecting my copy in the post one of these days!

    Yup, I’ve made all these mistakes, and more. I AM the 99%, or something. Currently taking the scenic route back to the drawing board. Huzzah!

  2. The imaginary dialogue with Ramit about Vegas made me laugh so hard. Great article, look forward to reading the book.

  3. Chris, I like that bit about “failing to change people’s lives” I guess that sums it up right there.

    I have written an e-book about stopping a problem that most of the world suffers from – yet, I do not sell very many of them.

    I think the answer lies in what you mentioned it has to be both “useful’ and desirable’.

    And perhaps people just do not realize how badly they need my information. It is better to create a product wherein people already know how desperately they need the info!

  4. Props to Ramit for this post. Most people could not turn down a million dollar+ pay day and keep to their principles. I hope this is why Ramit’s brand will thrive over the decades.

    I read the following from another course, which disappointingly Ramit affiliates with, and it made me want to contact my attorney general:

    “Introducing the “6 Pillar Map” to reach and make millions selling YOUR products and services online. These exact strategies helped me start from scratch and build a multi-million dollar brand with nothing more than a laptop! Enter your info below to get instant access right now.”

    While this person is a leader in their field, her results are certainly not typical.

    “Rap about it now, hope you get it later” – Jay-Z

    • Thanks for the kind words, Yasmeen.

      Btw, you may not agree with the marketing copy, but I rarely promote other people’s stuff, so when I do, there’s a reason. In this case, her material is quite good for her target audience. And I’ve tested that with my own IWT readers. Hopefully you check it out, but if not, I completely understand. Thanks for reading.

  5. Holy smokes- Ramit, I’ll be honest and say that I haven’t read your blog for months.

    Then I come back today, when you have this amazing post from Chris about product creation- which I just got serious about in last 2 weeks.

    This is crazy, man.

    Thanks both to Ramit and Chris- the information in this post is GOLD.

  6. This is great.
    I’m going the physical product route, but instead of selling something like “headphones,” I sell artwork online that I’ve marketed as fine art posters / prints. I’m nearly 23 years old, and have made just above $27k in sales….. in about 2.5 years. I’ve have had a $500 day and a $2500 month (both in sales).

    I took Earn1k, which helped quite a bit in terms of thinking of this whole thing as a series of systems, giving outstanding ideas on marketing, finding a niche market etc. It got me thinking of selling artwork as an actual business and not as something “pure or precious” and if I get money than I’ve somehow sold my soul.

    ___

    It sounds very interesting to make online courses, internet businesses or whatever, but with what I’ve learned doing physical products it would take (ME) probably around 3-5 years to get results.

  7. Your stats are bs internet marketing hocus pocus. I’ve done research my entire life, and “99% of people” are not failing at ANYTHING. 99% of people don’t fail at marraige, 99% of people don’t fail at their jobs, and the reality for me is “100%” of all my friends right now are SUCCEEDING at selling products. Its only 4 friends, but your stat does not represent real life even in the least accurate way.

    Everyone uses this stat like “99% of people fail at marketing”, or “99% of people fail at selling products” or “99% of people fail at facebook” or 99% of people fail at ebay”. DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE THIS DUMB? If 99% of people were failing at everything, this world would be in a MUCH WORSE situation than it already is. The only thing true about this rule, is that internet marketers need you to buy it so they can sell their shitty product to you.

    Next time I see anyone using this stat, I’m immediately calling them out on the RESEARCH. Show me the PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH that backs up your stat because it doesn’t fucking exist. That doesn’t mean link to a friend who’s been infected by this overly contagious marketing meme, it means show real peer reviewed research that proves you know wtf you’re talking about, because you don’t.

    • Thanks Rob. You’re free to disagree, but I believe I have a bit more data than you.

    • Experience trumps academia ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. When you have the courage to open your eyes, you will see 99% (maybe closer to 95%) of the people have no awareness whatsoever as to what they really want. Fear and all of its various manifistations keep people in their uninterupted slumber. People like Ramit and Chris clearly challenged their beliefs and the herd mentality. Not to be intentionally “contrarian” or form a side-herd, but they saw at some point in their lives that the conventional “wisdom” about finances, happiness, freedom, etc was mostly lies. The academic approach, while making yourself feel intellectually superior to your peers, will never yeild the practical results that can only be achevied with on-the-ground practice.

      It’s not like they are claiming that you are wrong. They take action and see clearly that there is a different (and in their opinion better) way of living their life. And they are not as scarity minded and choose to share their information.

  8. Whether the number is 99% or 95% – you are right it is very HIGH!

    And yes, for every failure there are dozens more that never finish their product or reach market.

    Certainly agree on that front…where I disagree (and this is from 10-years of experience where I learned to create products from $17 up to $500K weekend training programs) and helped thousands of others through various models of teaching, coaching and free support…is that trying to teach them is a lost cause.

    What I repeatedly find is that nearly everyone has the knowledge or passion for a topic to obtain the knowledge required to create a solid infoproduct…many people are sitting on it right now.

    With some basic training they can organize and position that material in the correct way (toward want the customer wants and will buy), understand how basic online marketing and business works and organize the infoproduct in a way to achieve an end transformation rather than just to inform.

    In fact, I have taken many existing ebooks, membership sites and courses and did two main things to improve their sales dramatically:

    1. Re-orient the marketing (and sometimes the product) toward achieving the #1 transformation the target audience wants and
    2. Re-organize the material to be “application-based” rather than information-based. Meaning that each step in the product must be something the customer can learn from yes…but also apply to see a result on the way to achieving the ultimate objective of the course.

    Sure, not everyone is teachable or will execute…but that’s the case with anything in life. Yet, I have seen pretty amazing results from people who had been struggling for years by focusing on these two areas.

    Jeff

    • >>>>>>>>1. Re-orient the marketing (and sometimes the product) toward achieving the #1 transformation the target audience wants and
      2. Re-organize the material to be “application-based” rather than information-based. Meaning that each step in the product must be something the customer can learn from yes…but also apply to see a result on the way to achieving the ultimate objective of the course.<<<<<<<<<

      Awesome insights there, Jeff. I have been attempted to organize a large amount of information and ideas that have been floating around in my hand in the process of creating an information product along with an accompanying list-building lead magnet to go along with it. I will additionally be attempting to apply your tips along with those of Mr. Guillebeau contained in the article.

  9. Of course you won’t be successful at building online products.

    Nobody is.

    The first time.

    IIRC, Ramit’s first product was a $5 ebook… I have a feeling if present Ramit could travel back in time he would slap himself for making about 935 product/marketing mistakes.

    This isn’t a binary outcome, it’s a continuous, iterative process. Those that are real successes are so because they got through The Dip and found their wheelhouse.

  10. I got a copy of the $100 start up and I’m looking forward to reading it. I just finished reading every single article on Chris Guillebeau’s blog (from 2008!) and I believe he has the edge to help people who are interested in setting up their first microbusiness.

  11. Wow. Chris and Ramit, two of my favorite bloggers, in one post. I feel lucky to have read this because both of you have offered an incredible amount of useful, relevant advice to me.

    Thanks, guys.

  12. What a wonderful post. I truly and honestly appreciate the community you have built here Rammit and take inspiration from how you turn down things that would benefit you, but not your readers. Your philosophy is rare to see on financial blogs oddly enough. I was also inspired by the piece from Chris. So much so that I had an idea for a subscription based website that would target a very niche market (crafting). Only problem is I have no idea how to build such a website! It frustrates me sometimes that I do not know how to do more than I do and I know I am just making excuses, but it would be nice if I knew someone that could get on board with my idea and say “I can build that for you” LOL I was reading another post of yours about how sometimes you just need to send that first email, so I posted my plight on Facebook and perhaps it will pique the interest of one of my techy friends. I won’t know unless I try right? Or perhaps this is just a good reason for me to learn to build a better website. Anyway, I know I am starting to ramble here, but I just wanted to thank you for the wonderful site and the wonderful inspiration to not only dream big, but to find a way to make that dream real.

    Rachel

  13. I love this article!

    I went down the same path (www.fbplays.com) and I was struggling to make any sales (1 or 2 per month @ $30), but I was bleeding cash because of adsense.

    I ALMOST gave up on it.

    Then I realized, I was trying to invent a new mall (landing page), when I could just set up a kiosk at the best mall in the world (amazon).

    I converted my E-Book to be kindle compatible (www.fiverr.com) for $25 and threw it up on Amazon’s Self-Publish KDP program.

    During September I was the #2 book in my category and it’s been bringing in a steady passive income every month since.

    Don’t give up on your E-Book People! Chances are, you just need to place it where the buyers are!

  14. How fun to see both my boys on the same blog. Barbing at each other, while sharing useful info. Great stuff. I have learned a lot from each of you, and am very happy to see your well-deserved success.

  15. Ramit – How are the methods touted by Chris any different than those found in the Four Hour Work Week?

    Not bashing, honestly want to know. Obviously I haven’t read Chris’ book yet, but I have read 4HWW, and want to know is it worth my time reading a potentially similar book.

    Thanks!
    Lindsey

    • Some similarities, some differences. Check the Amazon reviews.

      Just so you know, when I first started researching productization and monetization, I read every single item I could get my hands on. For $10 or $15, even if you learn ONE simple insight, it’s money and time well spent.

      One of my biggest goals is to get my readers to invest more in themselves through high-quality books, courses, or even meeting people for coffee.

  16. Great stuff, as always.

    Funny thing is I read Chris’s book AONC about 2 years ago which changed my view of how to earn money and live a better life. I then youtube’d a video of him talking about starting a business and in the info panel there was a link to Iwillteachyoutoberich.com

    Since then I’ve invested in two of Ramit’s products that HAVE been life changing.

    So, thank you both. See you in Atlanta Chris.

  17. I loved Chris’ new book. Great principles that I totally believe. Many of them were ones I followed to help me reach my idea of success. Contrary to the high failure stats of big businesses, I tend to believe that most people who really want to create a successful online product can do so, but of course that depends on how you define success. Not everyone can make millions of dollars per year like Ramit, but just about anyone can create something to generate a few hundred to a few thousand extra bucks per month if they’re dedicated to it and follow the guidelines mentioned in the book. Isn’t that a success?

    I recently started offering business consulting, especially for people looking to create a subscription-based web product like what I’ve done with Music Teacher’s Helper. It’s really fun to see people move forward with their dreams, knowing the rewards that are up ahead for them if they stick with it. Some businesses ideas will flop, but if you take things step by step, you can find that out very early on before you’ve invested too much time and money (and before you’ve even created the product). That’s not a failure either, in my opinion. How can you fail when you take this approach?

  18. A very timely post as I plan on releasing my next eBook in the upcoming weeks. My first eBook absolutely failed. I did everything possible and consumed every piece of writing possible on how to launch an online product. I sent out over ten guest posts on the launch date, set up an affiliate program, and learned all of the behind the scenes stuff of a product launch.

    Then on launch day I was ready to go and count the money… Turns out I sold zero copies. Yep zero. Since October I ended up selling about 6 copies. Funny side note, one of the buyers was an ex-gf that I thought hated me for sure.

    Why did my product launch fail? My audience simply didn’t want the product. There was no real demand. I turned the eBook into articles. I ended up losing a ton of money. I spent like $400 on the design alone.

    I’m going to give it one more shot this summer.

    I’ve read both of your books and met both of you in person. I already ordered my copy of $100 startup.

    I’m ready and it’s my turn to get some solid returns!

  19. The mistakes you cover at the end are really dead on. I’m really struggling with #3 however, after the latest Panda update in late March which cut my search traffic (the primary source of my traffic) to my sales sites by more than half. As a result my sales are down as well. I’m starting to really build a large email list and Facebook Fan page, but want to make sure I have the appropriate mix of adding value through useful content and pitching my products. Any suggestions on a proven way to go about this without coming across as a pushy salesman who doesn’t care about his customer? Thanks for the help.

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  21. How timely, I just read GetRichSlowly’s review (http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2012/05/08/book-review-the-100-startup/#comments) of Chris’ new book and thought that it had a lot in common with Ramit’s methodology. Definitely interested in checking it out.

  22. I am printing this out and will read tonight. Am I the only one who still prints to read? I sometimes bring your articles with me and read while sitting in traffic, with highlighter in hand. Something is wrong with me, I know.

    • Pls take a picture of you highlighting my printed-out blog posts with a comically large crayon in a crowded mall / freeway / subway. Send to me and I will post it.

  23. This is really great advice, but I wished he had talked more about the marketing side. As in, once you have a really great product, how do you make people aware of it?

  24. I think the biggest problem with people trying to break into passive income is that they spend too much money on everything but their product (sales copy writers, designers, seo consultants, vpa’s, ect..). There are a ton of great outlets for people to sell their product: amazon, Barnes and noble, gum road, etc.. That are both free and easy to use.

    Spending money and seeing no return will always feel worse then spending no money and still seeing no return.

  25. I like this post. I ordered the book a couple months ago. I’m looking forward to it arriving. I got started writing a couple months ago, building up themes around specific steps people can take to get where you suggest: happiness. I have information products brewing in my mind and evernote is getting full. Like I said, I’m excited to see what you suggest in depth.

  26. Hi Ramit,

    This was the first email blast I read through in awhile (What I wished I knew when I started IWT). Great job, liked the intro and article by Chris. Launch site is awesome. Just one point of contention, I’m a bit skeptical of Chris’ allegation that one can bypass the “failure” steps by following a certain. Path. As a veteran investor and portfolio manager, I’ve yet to find any endeavor without detours along the way.

  27. I think a lot of people fail because they are looking to push crappy products. Content/quality is king. You may have the coolest looking site/product but if it doesn’t perform it’s function, no one will buy. Quality over quantity online. There are hundred’s of everything out there online, you need to make your product stand out from the rest.

  28. I’ll buy a copy of Chris’s new book if and only if there’s an interview with this guy in there:

    http://iwanttodrawacatforyou.com/

  29. So I’m in the whatever % it is that got info products to work for them – enough to quit my job and pay the bills.

    Ramit is right about the hard work of being the expert and an expert marketer.

    A good alternative?

    Partner with an expert and do their marketing for them.

    Especially when you start out, it’s easier to promote someone else’s knowledge and skills (unless you have indomitable self confidence like Ramit.)

    Plus you can focus on the market research and marketing.

  30. Interesting – I have largely ignored the affiliate push that Chris talks about avoiding. I didn’t even bother to lame “deal” however this interview makes me want to actually buy the book!

    I know it is only one person but seems anecdotal

  31. The big lesson I learned from you Ramit (and from Noah & Neville) is BUSINESS IDEA VALIDATION TESTING! That’s the crucial step that most people skip or don’t do correctly, and the principle holds true for e-products or for freelance services.

  32. I’ve written many ebooks with 1 being a great success… when I look back at the ones that didn’t do so well, it was only because I had completely missed what the market actually wanted.

    Thanks for the great post. I’m looking forward to receiving my copy of The $100 Startup.

    Cheers
    Ian McConnell
    Western Australia

    • I’ve made the same mistake. In my arrogance I thought I knew what people needed, rather than exploring what they were looking for.

      If you don’t mind me asking, where did you offer your ebooks for sale?

  33. Hey,

    I actually like this post because of the comments after it!

    Great discussion!

    Mihaela

  34. Awesome post – very inspiring and fired me up. My business is doing great and I know it’s just the tip of the iceberg.

  35. Chris, what led you to change your mindset and think of the “end” parts first? It seems counterintuitive, but clearly, it works.

  36. Great article.

    It took a while to digest but there were several key points that really resonated, but the one that stood out most concerned relating usefulness and value. I’ve written and published 3 books on Kindle (under different names, of course). Of the most successful, it was in a primal niche that most people are concerned about, whether they openly admit this or not. However, I never created it with a marketing plan and it’s just too short to be considered a real book. More like a minuteman manual.

    Thus said, it’s been over a year since the book was released and while it still sells, it’s taking me even longer to create a stronger product that’s more value-packed than this last book I produced.

    People need solutions that directly relate to their lives. And when you’re providing them valuable and insightful information that means something to their lives and empowers them to take action with the information you’ve given them, you end up winning more because you’re building a small tribe that trusts you as opposed to people who hate you, feel gipped, may (or may not) request a refund and never speak to you again.

  37. It’s great to hear everyone’s comments on the subject. Maybe even better than the content of the article. You should all start your own blogs! :)

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  40. How funny….I literally just walked in the door from seeing Chris on his tour in Alexandria, VA at The Motley Fool headquarters! Chris gave about a 45 minute talk, then took questions from the audience. I met him after and was going to ask if he’d ever heard of Ramit, but didn’t get the chance. Anyway, I came home, checked my e-mail and found this article.

    Chris could not have been nicer and it was great to finally meet him in person after reading about so many of his adventures!

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  42. Ramit , you where sent from Heaven, i am a Nigerian , i have being following your blog for about a year now , I implemented your strategy to get a Dream job and it Worked like magic i feel i owe you .Thanks for you FREE advice

  43. (had to stop myself from saying i enjoyed the blog) There are times i wonder about some of these advice. I’ve had a few small time business so I can pin point some of the BS as well as when the person telling it is speaking the truth.
    (One final note: no matter how you focus your money-making efforts, a lot of people will encourage you to “become comfortable with failure” and “learn to fail quickly.” WTF?……..)
    I thought that was funny mainly because no one seems to have figured out that both sides are the same thing. Learn from both your success and failures and sometimes there nothing to learn.

    (Mistake #3: Focusing too much on the product, and not enough on the marketing.) That really should of been Focusing too much on nothing, instead create a great product (at lest as good as you can) and then create (find, hire, etc) a great way to get the word out.

    Personal (and Chris did touch on this) I think the worst thing that has come out of these how to make money courses is. Too much at once as Chris pointed out think big but try to get up the first step.

  44. Powerful ideas for responsible readers! I read these posts twice.
    Some of us, not quite Internet savvy, want to learn PRECISELY marketing and productization (for information product). Any suggestions?

    Best regards

  45. Ladies, a question: how would you feel about splitting the cost of the engagement ring? You get the ring you want, two people combining could maybe increase the price range, and it’s a symbol of a shared commitment to one another…after all you both share the financial burden of the purchase… Thoughts?

  46. Thank you. The “write the offer first” point and the “how will you change people’s lives” points bring ridiculous focus. Ridiculously cool focus, that is.

  47. I am pretty sure this medium Chris is using is going to sell well when packaged into an e-book. He’s everywhere doing what he knows how to do and pitching the book to the face of the people who needs it.

    Sheyi

  48. i have to agree with Joe, this is a great post with good insights but as you mention the real focus has to be on marketing. So can you provide some tips on where you are marketing and how much you are spending? Do you have a ratio of how much you can spend on marketing? Or how about a spreadsheet example that takes all costs into account. THAT would be useful and I would even pay for it!

    PS, if you dont do it, i am about to write my first ebook to provide this info

  49. I’m curious about the sales funnels for these info products. It seems like the biggest names have a lot of information on a subject, and subsequently have an e-mail autoresponder lead magnet with just a taste of the info, then an low price offering with some more info (but large amounts intentionally left out), then a moderate priced info product on the subject that still leaves a bit out (intentionally), then they eventually reveal an EXTREMELY HIGH-PRICED product that FINALLY reveals everything the author knows on the subject. Is this approach REALLY the only way to make serious money while ACTUALLY helping someone in the capacity they need/want???

  50. Ramit, when you did the ass kicking guide (which I bought by the way) Did you ever fear of just losing money on people who would just redistribute? I have an idea for a very competitive sport and will be giving out trade secrets I have learned over many years but fear that a pdf book will just be handed out among the masses.

    Interested to hear your opinions and the readers

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