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		<title>By: 25-Year-Old Restaurant Worker</title>
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		<dc:creator>25-Year-Old Restaurant Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a customer of ING for over 7 years, I push them any opportunity I can. If not for the better than average interest, or for the decent customer service, then maybe for the $0 overdraft fee (replaced with a line of credit they change you interest on) or possibly for the same ease of access you are given with most other banks. All for the small inconvenience of maybe not living near a brick and mortar branch and waiting a few business days to get money transfer from account to account. Worth it.

Zoe: Never used or were aware of HSBC. I can say that ING has performed better (for me) than WaMu, First Union (before the buyout by Wachovia), Wachovia, Bank Atlantic, Bank of America, and SunTrust. I maintain my WaMu account simply to transfer money back and forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a customer of ING for over 7 years, I push them any opportunity I can. If not for the better than average interest, or for the decent customer service, then maybe for the $0 overdraft fee (replaced with a line of credit they change you interest on) or possibly for the same ease of access you are given with most other banks. All for the small inconvenience of maybe not living near a brick and mortar branch and waiting a few business days to get money transfer from account to account. Worth it.</p>
<p>Zoe: Never used or were aware of HSBC. I can say that ING has performed better (for me) than WaMu, First Union (before the buyout by Wachovia), Wachovia, Bank Atlantic, Bank of America, and SunTrust. I maintain my WaMu account simply to transfer money back and forth.</p>
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		<title>By: zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have HSBC Direct.  I was wondering...is  ING really better?

On Jane--geez, people are really so judgmental and harsh on her.  Pretty unfair, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have HSBC Direct.  I was wondering&#8230;is  ING really better?</p>
<p>On Jane&#8211;geez, people are really so judgmental and harsh on her.  Pretty unfair, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, David, that isn&#039;t any intentional product placement. A lot of my readers use ING Direct because (1) it is good and (2) I write about them because they are good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, David, that isn&#8217;t any intentional product placement. A lot of my readers use ING Direct because (1) it is good and (2) I write about them because they are good.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathetic product placement of ING Direct in Day One passage. 

Coincidence they are one of Ramit&#039;s sponsors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic product placement of ING Direct in Day One passage. </p>
<p>Coincidence they are one of Ramit&#8217;s sponsors?</p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for explaining the comment.  I agree that health care is scary in the US.  It is supposedly the leading cause of bankruptcy.  On the other hand, the idea of blaming the country for the failures of the industry bothers me.  The true fault is the industry (&quot;insurance&quot; companies that don&#039;t insure a thing) and their control over the US gov&#039;t.  

On the other hand, there are plenty of people banging down the US&#039;s doors trying to get in to get the quality of health care available here.  And free coverage for certain classes of people...unfortunately, most people don&#039;t fall into those classes.

We don&#039;t do everything right, that&#039;s for sure...I&#039;d sure appreciate the 6-months maternity leave given in Canada...and other countries that have 1-3 years of maternity leave...in the US, you&#039;re lucky to get 3-months...but that doesn&#039;t mean that we do everything wrong, either, or that the gov&#039;t is out to damage you for your choice to populate the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for explaining the comment.  I agree that health care is scary in the US.  It is supposedly the leading cause of bankruptcy.  On the other hand, the idea of blaming the country for the failures of the industry bothers me.  The true fault is the industry (&#8221;insurance&#8221; companies that don&#8217;t insure a thing) and their control over the US gov&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, there are plenty of people banging down the US&#8217;s doors trying to get in to get the quality of health care available here.  And free coverage for certain classes of people&#8230;unfortunately, most people don&#8217;t fall into those classes.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t do everything right, that&#8217;s for sure&#8230;I&#8217;d sure appreciate the 6-months maternity leave given in Canada&#8230;and other countries that have 1-3 years of maternity leave&#8230;in the US, you&#8217;re lucky to get 3-months&#8230;but that doesn&#8217;t mean that we do everything wrong, either, or that the gov&#8217;t is out to damage you for your choice to populate the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: RT Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>RT Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for replying personally. Health insurance reminded me: now that you&#039;re about to have a child, have you considered life insurance? I understand Term life insurance is your best bet for providing for your family if the unforeseen happens. I realize it&#039;s not in the budget currently, and this might be something to keep in mind in the future. Cheers and good luck!

I agree with you about the health care bit, I&#039;m really glad for the level of health care I receive here in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for replying personally. Health insurance reminded me: now that you&#8217;re about to have a child, have you considered life insurance? I understand Term life insurance is your best bet for providing for your family if the unforeseen happens. I realize it&#8217;s not in the budget currently, and this might be something to keep in mind in the future. Cheers and good luck!</p>
<p>I agree with you about the health care bit, I&#8217;m really glad for the level of health care I receive here in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: 25-Year-Old Restaurant Worker</title>
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		<dc:creator>25-Year-Old Restaurant Worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, the positive response is really encouraging. I&#039;m really proud of how far I&#039;ve come and the decisions I&#039;ve made (despite that some have not been the right ones).

While everything sounds rosy, I doubt I&#039;m the ideal role model either. I accumulated a significant amount of debt in years past from bumps I&#039;ve had in the road and a significant amount of time spent in school. (Approximately $20k in student loans and another $15k in credit card debt.) These are things which I&#039;m not so proud to mention, but they were decisions that I do not regret. They&#039;ve made me much more careful with how I spend my money right now when it&#039;s most important. Since the new job, I&#039;ve been able to apply larger payments toward my CCs (largest APR first, of course) and reduce the amount of money I accept in student loans for my final two semesters.

RT Wolf: Retirement and College funds are definitely something I want to work toward, but aren&#039;t a part of my budget currently. My wife and I maintain a 3 month cash buffer in a savings/emergency account. Once I graduate, I can work more hours and this extra income will be divided between paying off debt more quickly, a better/longer term savings solution (thinking Roth or foreign markets), and hopefully a little toward personal desires. Work to live...not live to work, you know?

We also want to look into health insurance for our new family, but looking at the prices, it is simply not realistic on our income. We primarily only want something for the big incidents (emergency room visits, accidents). The cheapest we can find are PPOs starting at $150-200/mo which have a $2mil lifetime cap/person and $10k deductibles. Useless and horrible ROI, in my opinion. If we can&#039;t find something better, we&#039;re just going to start a separate account for health incidentals and invest into that. Better there than some uber-corp&#039;s coffers. I just hope I&#039;m not dreaming with what I&#039;m looking for.

Dylan: Ive done a LOT to make sure our plan was cost effective. We setup a T-Mobile family plan. We pay $85/mo for 600 shared minutes between the two of us. We call each other for free and have 400 texts on each line. (Texts are a great way to reduce the minutes used! Quick messages which take less than 30 seconds are better as texts.) We have free nights and weekends and calls within my carrier are also free. Despite being sure I did the best job on this, I still submitted my bill to them. They only recommendation they had was not using carrier based 411.. (which I admonish my wife for accidentally using!) 800-GOOG-411 for anyone who doesn&#039;t already know about this. It&#039;s better and free, if you just need a number or directions.

rkt: I don&#039;t plan on leaving my programming job anytime soon. I currently only work for them part-time which allows for my school schedule and some semblance of a life. I know what I have but at the same time, I understand my potential is not going to be fully realized through a regular 9 to 5, desk-jockey position. After school, I will continue to provide my best until I better opportunities come along or I feel I&#039;m becoming stagnant there. Job hunting is too stressful to push myself into that situation more than I absolutely need to.

Cecilia: The &quot;government shafting us&quot; could be misinterpreted as though I felt they owed me something. Without going into details, it was questionable whether my wife and son would have their medical costs covered through pregnancy and birth. I knew that we didn&#039;t have enough money to afford any major costs from complications if they popped up. And even if everything went fine, it was costing us $150 per obstetrician appointment (who happened to be a horrible doctor, anyway), he kept throwing tests at us which we felt were unnecessary and expensive, and constantly overbooked his office which made visits unbearable. The hospitals wanted ridiculous amounts of paperwork and insurance forms filled out. The whole process was frightening. It put us in a better position mentally and financially if we had Isaac in Norway and decided that would be the best option for our family. I kind of look at it as though our countries are corporations. America, Inc didn&#039;t do as good of a job to meet my family&#039;s needs and so we went with the competition.

I realize not everyone has an opportunity to be provided with a great health care system, but things here in Norway were much smoother overall. And don&#039;t get me wrong I love America and the principles it stands for and it has some great things that you don&#039;t find anywhere else...but health care is not one of those things.

If anyone has some suggestions regarding health care options, I&#039;m all ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, the positive response is really encouraging. I&#8217;m really proud of how far I&#8217;ve come and the decisions I&#8217;ve made (despite that some have not been the right ones).</p>
<p>While everything sounds rosy, I doubt I&#8217;m the ideal role model either. I accumulated a significant amount of debt in years past from bumps I&#8217;ve had in the road and a significant amount of time spent in school. (Approximately $20k in student loans and another $15k in credit card debt.) These are things which I&#8217;m not so proud to mention, but they were decisions that I do not regret. They&#8217;ve made me much more careful with how I spend my money right now when it&#8217;s most important. Since the new job, I&#8217;ve been able to apply larger payments toward my CCs (largest APR first, of course) and reduce the amount of money I accept in student loans for my final two semesters.</p>
<p>RT Wolf: Retirement and College funds are definitely something I want to work toward, but aren&#8217;t a part of my budget currently. My wife and I maintain a 3 month cash buffer in a savings/emergency account. Once I graduate, I can work more hours and this extra income will be divided between paying off debt more quickly, a better/longer term savings solution (thinking Roth or foreign markets), and hopefully a little toward personal desires. Work to live&#8230;not live to work, you know?</p>
<p>We also want to look into health insurance for our new family, but looking at the prices, it is simply not realistic on our income. We primarily only want something for the big incidents (emergency room visits, accidents). The cheapest we can find are PPOs starting at $150-200/mo which have a $2mil lifetime cap/person and $10k deductibles. Useless and horrible ROI, in my opinion. If we can&#8217;t find something better, we&#8217;re just going to start a separate account for health incidentals and invest into that. Better there than some uber-corp&#8217;s coffers. I just hope I&#8217;m not dreaming with what I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
<p>Dylan: Ive done a LOT to make sure our plan was cost effective. We setup a T-Mobile family plan. We pay $85/mo for 600 shared minutes between the two of us. We call each other for free and have 400 texts on each line. (Texts are a great way to reduce the minutes used! Quick messages which take less than 30 seconds are better as texts.) We have free nights and weekends and calls within my carrier are also free. Despite being sure I did the best job on this, I still submitted my bill to them. They only recommendation they had was not using carrier based 411.. (which I admonish my wife for accidentally using!) 800-GOOG-411 for anyone who doesn&#8217;t already know about this. It&#8217;s better and free, if you just need a number or directions.</p>
<p>rkt: I don&#8217;t plan on leaving my programming job anytime soon. I currently only work for them part-time which allows for my school schedule and some semblance of a life. I know what I have but at the same time, I understand my potential is not going to be fully realized through a regular 9 to 5, desk-jockey position. After school, I will continue to provide my best until I better opportunities come along or I feel I&#8217;m becoming stagnant there. Job hunting is too stressful to push myself into that situation more than I absolutely need to.</p>
<p>Cecilia: The &#8220;government shafting us&#8221; could be misinterpreted as though I felt they owed me something. Without going into details, it was questionable whether my wife and son would have their medical costs covered through pregnancy and birth. I knew that we didn&#8217;t have enough money to afford any major costs from complications if they popped up. And even if everything went fine, it was costing us $150 per obstetrician appointment (who happened to be a horrible doctor, anyway), he kept throwing tests at us which we felt were unnecessary and expensive, and constantly overbooked his office which made visits unbearable. The hospitals wanted ridiculous amounts of paperwork and insurance forms filled out. The whole process was frightening. It put us in a better position mentally and financially if we had Isaac in Norway and decided that would be the best option for our family. I kind of look at it as though our countries are corporations. America, Inc didn&#8217;t do as good of a job to meet my family&#8217;s needs and so we went with the competition.</p>
<p>I realize not everyone has an opportunity to be provided with a great health care system, but things here in Norway were much smoother overall. And don&#8217;t get me wrong I love America and the principles it stands for and it has some great things that you don&#8217;t find anywhere else&#8230;but health care is not one of those things.</p>
<p>If anyone has some suggestions regarding health care options, I&#8217;m all ears.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John: Fuck you. I do save money, I worked my ass off to get the job I have, I&#039;m not in debt, and I&#039;m tired of getting raked over the coals for my honest post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Fuck you. I do save money, I worked my ass off to get the job I have, I&#8217;m not in debt, and I&#8217;m tired of getting raked over the coals for my honest post.</p>
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		<title>By: Cecilia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cecilia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American government is really shafting us with support&quot;

Hmmm...how exactly is the American gov&#039;t shafting you with support?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American government is really shafting us with support&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;how exactly is the American gov&#8217;t shafting you with support?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yours was the best money diary entry yet!  Your diligence and discipline is inspiring.  Congratulations to both you &amp; your wife on your son Isaac, and also on your degrees :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yours was the best money diary entry yet!  Your diligence and discipline is inspiring.  Congratulations to both you &amp; your wife on your son Isaac, and also on your degrees <img src='http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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