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		<title>By: Josh Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 06:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lost money as well on very good companies.  Recently, Whole Foods Market and Yahoo have been killed in the market for &quot;minor offenses&quot; in terms of bad performances.  However, i think if you really believe in the company, stick with it.  You will be rewarded down the road.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lost money as well on very good companies.  Recently, Whole Foods Market and Yahoo have been killed in the market for &#8220;minor offenses&#8221; in terms of bad performances.  However, i think if you really believe in the company, stick with it.  You will be rewarded down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: ETF Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETF Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramit,


I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard this before, but unless you have a lot of time to research companies, you&#039;re better off in a traditional fund or exchange traded fund. 


A vast majority of the pros who spend their days doing analysis fail to beat the &quot;market&quot;. And the fund managers that everyone hails as being above the rest still only achieve low double-digit returns. 


I feel bad for Hermann who thinks that with enough work he can expect 100% returns. That just isn&#039;t going to happen.


But good luck with whatever path you choose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramit,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard this before, but unless you have a lot of time to research companies, you&#8217;re better off in a traditional fund or exchange traded fund. </p>
<p>A vast majority of the pros who spend their days doing analysis fail to beat the &#8220;market&#8221;. And the fund managers that everyone hails as being above the rest still only achieve low double-digit returns. </p>
<p>I feel bad for Hermann who thinks that with enough work he can expect 100% returns. That just isn&#8217;t going to happen.</p>
<p>But good luck with whatever path you choose!</p>
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		<title>By: Hermann Klinke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hermann Klinke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramit, I don&#039;t know how much you or others on this page know about investing in stocks, but nobody should invest in stocks unless they really know what they are doing. I started a few months ago really getting into it and there is soooo much to learn and if you really know the stuff, then there is a lot to gain. You can expect returns of up to 100% a year, if you are really good at it and I don&#039;t mean timing the market. I mean doing your technical and fundamental analysis and having several trading strategies. I recommend reading investopedia.com for free and/or pay and learn it  from spreadtradesystems.com. What I love about stocks is that you can make money in any situtation, whether stocks are going down, up or staying the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramit, I don&#8217;t know how much you or others on this page know about investing in stocks, but nobody should invest in stocks unless they really know what they are doing. I started a few months ago really getting into it and there is soooo much to learn and if you really know the stuff, then there is a lot to gain. You can expect returns of up to 100% a year, if you are really good at it and I don&#8217;t mean timing the market. I mean doing your technical and fundamental analysis and having several trading strategies. I recommend reading investopedia.com for free and/or pay and learn it  from spreadtradesystems.com. What I love about stocks is that you can make money in any situtation, whether stocks are going down, up or staying the same.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have more studying to do. I&#039;ve taken huge hits in the past, but not anymore. A skilled investor loses some money sometimes, but never loses a lot. To make the argument you&#039;re looking for, you have to say the investor who knows fundamental value ignores the losses because they know the company is undervalued in the market. Fine, but what makes you a fundamental value investor? Because the complexity blows my mind. And I&#039;ve learned to embrace that ignorance... sensing ignorance and danger is wise! While I study the topic a few hours each day, I can&#039;t say I&#039;m an expert. Know what you don&#039;t know!


You&#039;ve presented a few curiousities, but not a philosophy. You need to learn the difference between technical and fundamental analysis, and between trading and investing. I&#039;m only holding JNJ, a defensive issue, and have earned quite comfortably in recent weeks. I&#039;ve also learned to favor fundamentally exceptional stocks, to wait for the right time to buy, and to accept very small gains, rather than chasing a big hit. Even AAPL is beyond my risk profile. I make about three trades per year, and that&#039;s probably too many! I earn $11/day on CD&#039;s... guaranteed. If I&#039;m switching money from there into a market with risk, there better be a good reason. Vegas is not a good reason. There&#039;s a saying in trading: Bulls can make money, and bears can make money, but pigs get slaughtered. Know what you&#039;re doing, or stop doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have more studying to do. I&#8217;ve taken huge hits in the past, but not anymore. A skilled investor loses some money sometimes, but never loses a lot. To make the argument you&#8217;re looking for, you have to say the investor who knows fundamental value ignores the losses because they know the company is undervalued in the market. Fine, but what makes you a fundamental value investor? Because the complexity blows my mind. And I&#8217;ve learned to embrace that ignorance&#8230; sensing ignorance and danger is wise! While I study the topic a few hours each day, I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m an expert. Know what you don&#8217;t know!</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve presented a few curiousities, but not a philosophy. You need to learn the difference between technical and fundamental analysis, and between trading and investing. I&#8217;m only holding JNJ, a defensive issue, and have earned quite comfortably in recent weeks. I&#8217;ve also learned to favor fundamentally exceptional stocks, to wait for the right time to buy, and to accept very small gains, rather than chasing a big hit. Even AAPL is beyond my risk profile. I make about three trades per year, and that&#8217;s probably too many! I earn $11/day on CD&#8217;s&#8230; guaranteed. If I&#8217;m switching money from there into a market with risk, there better be a good reason. Vegas is not a good reason. There&#8217;s a saying in trading: Bulls can make money, and bears can make money, but pigs get slaughtered. Know what you&#8217;re doing, or stop doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: debt-free</title>
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		<dc:creator>debt-free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ - what is the opportunity cost of spending all your time buying/selling/trading/stewing/fretting/freaking over all of these single stocks?  Pick a mutual fund with a good track record (10-20 years) and leave it alone.  And stop watching CNBC all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ &#8211; what is the opportunity cost of spending all your time buying/selling/trading/stewing/fretting/freaking over all of these single stocks?  Pick a mutual fund with a good track record (10-20 years) and leave it alone.  And stop watching CNBC all day.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If a stock drops 8% (or 10%, or 12%), I&#039;m out of there.&quot;


I&#039;ve been playing the stock game for over 15 years... There is truth in the above statement. You never know how far a stock will drop (or rise!). Do you really want to be holding Nortel... or Cisco... or Verizon. Or how about Enron, Worldcom, etc... Certaintly all those companies have (or had) what seems like valid business models. When a stock starts to drop, get out! You can always get back in if it starts to turn around. Now, using an example of Nortel... it may recover - eventually. But how long do you want to hold a dead stock? What is the oppurtunity cost of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If a stock drops 8% (or 10%, or 12%), I&#8217;m out of there.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been playing the stock game for over 15 years&#8230; There is truth in the above statement. You never know how far a stock will drop (or rise!). Do you really want to be holding Nortel&#8230; or Cisco&#8230; or Verizon. Or how about Enron, Worldcom, etc&#8230; Certaintly all those companies have (or had) what seems like valid business models. When a stock starts to drop, get out! You can always get back in if it starts to turn around. Now, using an example of Nortel&#8230; it may recover &#8211; eventually. But how long do you want to hold a dead stock? What is the oppurtunity cost of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up Investorial&#039;s post check out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ycombinator.com/munger.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ycombinator.com/munger.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up Investorial&#8217;s post check out: <a href="http://ycombinator.com/munger.html" rel="nofollow">http://ycombinator.com/munger.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason Yip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Yip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Doug Brown on this one.  It&#039;s just a buying opportunity but I also tend to dollar cost average on managed/mutual funds and I have a significant investment horizon.


Up, down, who cares?  If it&#039;s up, I buy less; if it&#039;s down, I buy more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Doug Brown on this one.  It&#8217;s just a buying opportunity but I also tend to dollar cost average on managed/mutual funds and I have a significant investment horizon.</p>
<p>Up, down, who cares?  If it&#8217;s up, I buy less; if it&#8217;s down, I buy more.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roman and Investorial, you can see the best and worst days from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hepburncapital.com/content/view/24/44/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link I posted in the article&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roman and Investorial, you can see the best and worst days from the <a href="http://www.hepburncapital.com/content/view/24/44/" rel="nofollow">link I posted in the article</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Investorial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investorial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this post brings up the fact that most people worry much more about their selling decision -- should I sell to cut my losses? or will it ever bounce back?


I firmly believe that the buying decision is the more important of the two. Too many purchases by beginner investors are based on impulse, fleet of the moment. 


You also made a good point about staying in the market but a better question is why people are buying and selling so often in the first place? What&#039;s driving them not to stay in the market?


Playing devil&#039;s advocate, yes, I&#039;d like to also see the statistics on being out the 5 / 10 / etc WORST days as well. Bringing up those favourable statistics only serve to build your thesis. It&#039;s like only surveying Chinese people if they like eating rice and noodles.


My point is that stock investors can also be market timers too. Time your entry point.. your buy decision! What do you base your buying decision on?

Most poker pros say that beginners get into trouble because they&#039;re playing too many hands... they end up chasing cards and blaming it on not catching the river, but the flawed decision was playing with marginal hole cards... looking for marginal chances of victory. Sound familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post brings up the fact that most people worry much more about their selling decision &#8212; should I sell to cut my losses? or will it ever bounce back?</p>
<p>I firmly believe that the buying decision is the more important of the two. Too many purchases by beginner investors are based on impulse, fleet of the moment. </p>
<p>You also made a good point about staying in the market but a better question is why people are buying and selling so often in the first place? What&#8217;s driving them not to stay in the market?</p>
<p>Playing devil&#8217;s advocate, yes, I&#8217;d like to also see the statistics on being out the 5 / 10 / etc WORST days as well. Bringing up those favourable statistics only serve to build your thesis. It&#8217;s like only surveying Chinese people if they like eating rice and noodles.</p>
<p>My point is that stock investors can also be market timers too. Time your entry point.. your buy decision! What do you base your buying decision on?</p>
<p>Most poker pros say that beginners get into trouble because they&#8217;re playing too many hands&#8230; they end up chasing cards and blaming it on not catching the river, but the flawed decision was playing with marginal hole cards&#8230; looking for marginal chances of victory. Sound familiar?</p>
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