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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overdraft Fees! Banks make billions on this. I can get a better deal from my loan shark. I hate it I hate those BLOOD SUCKING bankers that invented it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overdraft Fees! Banks make billions on this. I can get a better deal from my loan shark. I hate it I hate those BLOOD SUCKING bankers that invented it.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate overdraft fees myself!  When I had forgotten about a check wandering around in space for over a month...it hit my account when I wasn&#039;t expecting it...and yes, you guessed it...overdraft fees.  Except the bank didn&#039;t charge just one overdraft fee...the one for the check.  Oh no...it cleared the check...and charged overdraft fees for the other 6 little charges I had put on my debit card.  One soda cost me 36 dollars in fees.  I called the bank to try to have them waived...even talked to the branch manager, and they refused.  So I cancelled my overdraft protection.  What are they going to do now?  They&#039;ll be forced in the same situation to actually BOUNCE the ONE check...and charge me ONE FEE.  awwww...the poor things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate overdraft fees myself!  When I had forgotten about a check wandering around in space for over a month&#8230;it hit my account when I wasn&#8217;t expecting it&#8230;and yes, you guessed it&#8230;overdraft fees.  Except the bank didn&#8217;t charge just one overdraft fee&#8230;the one for the check.  Oh no&#8230;it cleared the check&#8230;and charged overdraft fees for the other 6 little charges I had put on my debit card.  One soda cost me 36 dollars in fees.  I called the bank to try to have them waived&#8230;even talked to the branch manager, and they refused.  So I cancelled my overdraft protection.  What are they going to do now?  They&#8217;ll be forced in the same situation to actually BOUNCE the ONE check&#8230;and charge me ONE FEE.  awwww&#8230;the poor things.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah -- why don&#039;t you call them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah &#8212; why don&#8217;t you call them?</p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the way Wachovia has ruined my life; both financially and personally, with its overdraff fees and policies.

I noticed a couple of weeks ago on my online statement that Wachovia had charged me $950 in overdraff fees for under $200 in overdrafts from my checking account from the beginning of this month; leaving my checking account depleted in $1,128.  My paycheck that I have directly deposited into my checking account back on 6/15 covered this; however, leaving me with a plus sum of only $22.00.  During May, Wachovia had charged me $250 in overdraft fees for $50-75 in overdrafts.

This experience has really ruined and devastated me; both financially and personally.  As a result, I am now unable to pay any of my bills -I am doing my best to stave off all of my creditors.  I wrote an e-mail to Wachovia back on 6/15 demanding that they replace or credit the overdraft fees or I would go take my business to another bank.  To this date, I have not heard from them; and to top this off, they have also shut down the use of my CheckCard - leading me this weekend to some embarrasing situations when I tried to use the card and it came back &quot;declined&quot;.  I have decided once and for all to end all business with Wachovia and open an account at a competing bank.  Still, as I have said, Wachovia has ruined my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the way Wachovia has ruined my life; both financially and personally, with its overdraff fees and policies.</p>
<p>I noticed a couple of weeks ago on my online statement that Wachovia had charged me $950 in overdraff fees for under $200 in overdrafts from my checking account from the beginning of this month; leaving my checking account depleted in $1,128.  My paycheck that I have directly deposited into my checking account back on 6/15 covered this; however, leaving me with a plus sum of only $22.00.  During May, Wachovia had charged me $250 in overdraft fees for $50-75 in overdrafts.</p>
<p>This experience has really ruined and devastated me; both financially and personally.  As a result, I am now unable to pay any of my bills -I am doing my best to stave off all of my creditors.  I wrote an e-mail to Wachovia back on 6/15 demanding that they replace or credit the overdraft fees or I would go take my business to another bank.  To this date, I have not heard from them; and to top this off, they have also shut down the use of my CheckCard &#8211; leading me this weekend to some embarrasing situations when I tried to use the card and it came back &#8220;declined&#8221;.  I have decided once and for all to end all business with Wachovia and open an account at a competing bank.  Still, as I have said, Wachovia has ruined my life.</p>
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		<title>By: I Will Teach You To Be Rich &#187; Negotiating out of bank fees part 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Will Teach You To Be Rich &#187; Negotiating out of bank fees part 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If I were a bank, here’s how I’d deal with overdraft fees [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like overdraft fees...people that pay them cover the costs of my free account with lots of perks, free checks, credit card rewards, etc.  

There&#039;s a difference too between overdraft fees and a line of credit that is drawn down when you go below $0.00.  I use this every once in a while when there is a difference of a day or two between bills and paychecks.  I&#039;ve never paid more than 50-60 cents for a few hundred bucks borrowed for a few days and paid right back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like overdraft fees&#8230;people that pay them cover the costs of my free account with lots of perks, free checks, credit card rewards, etc.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference too between overdraft fees and a line of credit that is drawn down when you go below $0.00.  I use this every once in a while when there is a difference of a day or two between bills and paychecks.  I&#8217;ve never paid more than 50-60 cents for a few hundred bucks borrowed for a few days and paid right back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having had a lot of difficult times, I regularly incurred the dreaded $35 overdraft fee on my Wachovia account. I tend to use my debit card for everything from paying utilities to buying a quick meal, so it was disheartening to see a #5 at taco bell cost forty bucks a pop. Even worse would be 5-6 transactions that get applied before a paycheck clears (I&#039;m convinced this is a conspiracy by the banks), each costing $35. I&#039;d be out several hundred dollars, on occasion.

Here&#039;s what I did to hack the process:
- Every paycheck, I pay all the bills that are due before the next paycheck, immediately.
- When the bills are debited, I withdraw enough cash to last me for meals, gas, haircuts, whatever your little expenditures are that keep adding up, until the next paycheck plus a few days grace period

This works well, since it&#039;s $35 whether it&#039;s a $400 overdraft or a $4 one. It minimizes the chance of paying 3-4 of those fees (really increasing the chance it&#039;ll happen again the second time). Plus, it&#039;s a fairly cheap interest rate (10% or so), compared to other short-term loans for those of us with bad credit.

Ideally we get to a point where that trick becomes irrelevant because we have a nice cushion. But for the hard times, it worked like a charm, especially if you combine some thriftiness in the process. 

Even better, make a budget and instead of paying by debit everywhere, withdraw the exact cash amount you need for &quot;out and about&quot; expenses like these. It helps keep you on par with your budget, knowing that when the cash gets low it&#039;s all you have left. And when you&#039;re under-budget it makes you feel better for saving money.

I think a big part of the problem is electronic funds. It makes it too easy to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had a lot of difficult times, I regularly incurred the dreaded $35 overdraft fee on my Wachovia account. I tend to use my debit card for everything from paying utilities to buying a quick meal, so it was disheartening to see a #5 at taco bell cost forty bucks a pop. Even worse would be 5-6 transactions that get applied before a paycheck clears (I&#8217;m convinced this is a conspiracy by the banks), each costing $35. I&#8217;d be out several hundred dollars, on occasion.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I did to hack the process:<br />
- Every paycheck, I pay all the bills that are due before the next paycheck, immediately.<br />
- When the bills are debited, I withdraw enough cash to last me for meals, gas, haircuts, whatever your little expenditures are that keep adding up, until the next paycheck plus a few days grace period</p>
<p>This works well, since it&#8217;s $35 whether it&#8217;s a $400 overdraft or a $4 one. It minimizes the chance of paying 3-4 of those fees (really increasing the chance it&#8217;ll happen again the second time). Plus, it&#8217;s a fairly cheap interest rate (10% or so), compared to other short-term loans for those of us with bad credit.</p>
<p>Ideally we get to a point where that trick becomes irrelevant because we have a nice cushion. But for the hard times, it worked like a charm, especially if you combine some thriftiness in the process. </p>
<p>Even better, make a budget and instead of paying by debit everywhere, withdraw the exact cash amount you need for &#8220;out and about&#8221; expenses like these. It helps keep you on par with your budget, knowing that when the cash gets low it&#8217;s all you have left. And when you&#8217;re under-budget it makes you feel better for saving money.</p>
<p>I think a big part of the problem is electronic funds. It makes it too easy to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Rubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with how you feel about overdraft fees. I think we should help wean banks off of PUNITIVE fees. How (I cut and pasted this from my  blog)?
   1. Avoid doing anything that might incur a fee;
   2. Pay attention your bank statements to find fees;
   3. Call and complain — try to get fees waived (remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease);
   4. Switch banks if your’s sucks.

I&#039;m working on a post that summarizes all the different fees banks charge and how to avoid them. 

Ramit, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with how you feel about overdraft fees. I think we should help wean banks off of PUNITIVE fees. How (I cut and pasted this from my  blog)?<br />
   1. Avoid doing anything that might incur a fee;<br />
   2. Pay attention your bank statements to find fees;<br />
   3. Call and complain — try to get fees waived (remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease);<br />
   4. Switch banks if your’s sucks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on a post that summarizes all the different fees banks charge and how to avoid them. </p>
<p>Ramit, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the interest on the overdrafts you mentioned are not accurate. I saw different national averages on bankrate.com and www.WallStreetQuest.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the interest on the overdrafts you mentioned are not accurate. I saw different national averages on bankrate.com and <a href="http://www.WallStreetQuest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.WallStreetQuest.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I read through some of the responses, but not all so I may be repeating some... 

This is certainly an idealistic and impractical solution. Banks would never implement this because it attacks a revenue source and certainly not because there is a service called overdraft protection that any customer can apply for and pay an annual charge of $25 per year. You will pay interest on your overdrafts ~18% but you won&#039;t get charged per overdraft and this will save you tons of money in the long term if you frequently overdraft. 

The problem is people do not read and think before setting up their accounts and why is the bank&#039;s responsibility to educate the consumer? Especially if the formal education system is failing in this regard? Anyways I digress... the incentives are just not there to justify...not to mention what would be the reward? Your reward does not reflect the practicality of today&#039;s society...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I read through some of the responses, but not all so I may be repeating some&#8230; </p>
<p>This is certainly an idealistic and impractical solution. Banks would never implement this because it attacks a revenue source and certainly not because there is a service called overdraft protection that any customer can apply for and pay an annual charge of $25 per year. You will pay interest on your overdrafts ~18% but you won&#8217;t get charged per overdraft and this will save you tons of money in the long term if you frequently overdraft. </p>
<p>The problem is people do not read and think before setting up their accounts and why is the bank&#8217;s responsibility to educate the consumer? Especially if the formal education system is failing in this regard? Anyways I digress&#8230; the incentives are just not there to justify&#8230;not to mention what would be the reward? Your reward does not reflect the practicality of today&#8217;s society&#8230;</p>
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