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	<title>Comments on: I should be a personal-finance carnie</title>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-82248</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also a consultant (not senior) at a litigation consulting firm.  To be 100% billable you would have had to put in more than 8 hours a day.  When I used to be a management consultant they billed me out at $300 an hour as an analyst and I was making 60K a year as a 22 year old.  In my litigation consulting firm, I am billed out at $150 an hour as a consultant and I make only slightly more than I used to at a mgmt consulting firm.  There&#039;s also a lot of costs the company shells out for each employee- medical expenses, life insurance, disability insurance, 401K matching, profit sharing, parking, FICA, Unemployment tax...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also a consultant (not senior) at a litigation consulting firm.  To be 100% billable you would have had to put in more than 8 hours a day.  When I used to be a management consultant they billed me out at $300 an hour as an analyst and I was making 60K a year as a 22 year old.  In my litigation consulting firm, I am billed out at $150 an hour as a consultant and I make only slightly more than I used to at a mgmt consulting firm.  There&#8217;s also a lot of costs the company shells out for each employee- medical expenses, life insurance, disability insurance, 401K matching, profit sharing, parking, FICA, Unemployment tax&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Micah</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-32395</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m less than 2x? I&#039;m paid $15 per hour and I&#039;m hired out at $27.50 per hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m less than 2x? I&#8217;m paid $15 per hour and I&#8217;m hired out at $27.50 per hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Imtos</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-28440</link>
		<dc:creator>Imtos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what is the &quot;right&quot; answer? did I get it right?  Did I win a prize? a pat in the back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what is the &#8220;right&#8221; answer? did I get it right?  Did I win a prize? a pat in the back?</p>
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		<title>By: Shreenath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shreenath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at a consulting firm myself and yeah I think the calculations of Imtos is probably right on~
we bill lower for litigation than strategy (think Mckinsey/bain/bcg) but bill every hour while in strategy we bill fixed 8 hr days irrespective of time worked.
To all those going on about overtime, this is a salaried job and most of us do not get overtime!
Also, making 60-100 k out of college is fairly easy if you did engineering. I had an offer for 80 in some god-forsaken town in texas which i obviously turned down!
Anyhow, another great blog ramit~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at a consulting firm myself and yeah I think the calculations of Imtos is probably right on~<br />
we bill lower for litigation than strategy (think Mckinsey/bain/bcg) but bill every hour while in strategy we bill fixed 8 hr days irrespective of time worked.<br />
To all those going on about overtime, this is a salaried job and most of us do not get overtime!<br />
Also, making 60-100 k out of college is fairly easy if you did engineering. I had an offer for 80 in some god-forsaken town in texas which i obviously turned down!<br />
Anyhow, another great blog ramit~</p>
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		<title>By: Imtos</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-25871</link>
		<dc:creator>Imtos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She makes 40/h and works 2,000 hours a year = $80,000 in salary for her
Her firm bills her at 280/h (7x40/h) for 2,000 hours a year = 560,000
Now, the firm also pays her a bunch of extra stuff like medical, dental, 401k match, insurance, vacation time, social security, other FICA, etc... so her cost for the firm would be aprox. 80,000 x 1.5 = 120,000
So for the firm: 560,000 - 120,000 = 440,000 in profit from her work but they also give her a nice office, computer, blah, blah and blah so she generates probably around 300k for her employer per year.  Of which, most goes to the partners pockets and Uncle Sam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She makes 40/h and works 2,000 hours a year = $80,000 in salary for her </p>
<p>Her firm bills her at 280/h (7&#215;40/h) for 2,000 hours a year = 560,000 </p>
<p>Now, the firm also pays her a bunch of extra stuff like medical, dental, 401k match, insurance, vacation time, social security, other FICA, etc&#8230; so her cost for the firm would be aprox. 80,000 x 1.5 = 120,000</p>
<p>So for the firm: 560,000 &#8211; 120,000 = 440,000 in profit from her work but they also give her a nice office, computer, blah, blah and blah so she generates probably around 300k for her employer per year.  Of which, most goes to the partners pockets and Uncle Sam!</p>
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		<title>By: gophersker</title>
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		<dc:creator>gophersker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe its just me, but I&#039;m confused about what the question is....but anyways,
I work for a consulting firm as well and often times speak in these terms.  What I think is being left out here that would reduce her &quot;multiplier&quot; is the amount of benefits (time off, holidays, medical) that she would also receive.
Either way, if her multiplier is 7 that is unbelievable.  In my company, our corporate goal is for production employees to have a multiplier of 3.  Obviously, high performing employees will have a higher multiplier, which for us has to come via overtime since we are competitive within our industry by generally having lower hourly rates than the competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe its just me, but I&#8217;m confused about what the question is&#8230;.but anyways,</p>
<p>I work for a consulting firm as well and often times speak in these terms.  What I think is being left out here that would reduce her &#8220;multiplier&#8221; is the amount of benefits (time off, holidays, medical) that she would also receive.</p>
<p>Either way, if her multiplier is 7 that is unbelievable.  In my company, our corporate goal is for production employees to have a multiplier of 3.  Obviously, high performing employees will have a higher multiplier, which for us has to come via overtime since we are competitive within our industry by generally having lower hourly rates than the competition.</p>
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		<title>By: klughing</title>
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		<dc:creator>klughing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bradford: I still think 94K is a lot at 23. I wish i can do that :-(. Care to teach me how? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bradford: I still think 94K is a lot at 23. I wish i can do that <img src='http://iwt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> . Care to teach me how? <img src='http://iwt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eisler</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-25574</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: Bradford</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-25438</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramit: I think we&#039;re more shocked that a 25 y/o is earning 100-120k a year. Granted, I&#039;m 23 and making about 94k, but I work as a IT/PM consultant in Seattle...so it isn&#039;t *that* much :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramit: I think we&#8217;re more shocked that a 25 y/o is earning 100-120k a year. Granted, I&#8217;m 23 and making about 94k, but I work as a IT/PM consultant in Seattle&#8230;so it isn&#8217;t *that* much <img src='http://iwt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cackle</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/i-should-be-a-personal-finance-carnie/#comment-25419</link>
		<dc:creator>cackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the difference is $240/hr or approx 340/hr was it really that simple or did i miss something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the difference is $240/hr or approx 340/hr was it really that simple or did i miss something</p>
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