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		<title>By: Pooja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pooja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please tell me where I can find YOUR suggestions for the same Ramit? 
I&#039;m sure you have it somewhere but I can&#039;t seem to find the post.
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please tell me where I can find YOUR suggestions for the same Ramit?<br />
I&#8217;m sure you have it somewhere but I can&#8217;t seem to find the post.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Wael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding splodge&#039;s idea about paying a friend to cook some stuff that you can freeze for you...  I wouldn&#039;t introduce money into a friendship in such a way, the only thing worse is taking the food for free.  (read:  Buck-up, spend the 30 minutes, and cook yourself a good meal.)

I was an all take-out guy (which meant gym time replaced cooking time) until I realised how many sites are out there with quick and easy to make dishes.  

http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=recipes+quick&amp;scope=all&amp;tab=all&amp;recipe=all  

On top of this, many grocers offer free delivery for orders over a certain amount, and will commit to a one hour delivery window (I can personally attest to this deal in London, Manhattan, Wash. DC).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding splodge&#8217;s idea about paying a friend to cook some stuff that you can freeze for you&#8230;  I wouldn&#8217;t introduce money into a friendship in such a way, the only thing worse is taking the food for free.  (read:  Buck-up, spend the 30 minutes, and cook yourself a good meal.)</p>
<p>I was an all take-out guy (which meant gym time replaced cooking time) until I realised how many sites are out there with quick and easy to make dishes.  </p>
<p><a href="http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=recipes+quick&amp;scope=all&amp;tab=all&amp;recipe=all" rel="nofollow">http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=recipes+quick&amp;scope=all&amp;tab=all&amp;recipe=all</a>  </p>
<p>On top of this, many grocers offer free delivery for orders over a certain amount, and will commit to a one hour delivery window (I can personally attest to this deal in London, Manhattan, Wash. DC).</p>
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		<title>By: Wa-eazie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wa-eazie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 26 and recently joined the ranks of independent consultants after a stint as a consultant at a Silicon Valley software firm which gave me a good underlying skillset and social networking skills/contacts.  Those of us who &quot;go independent&quot; know that the financial rewards can be great (I&#039;ve personally seen an increase in income of 100% on an already high &quot;employee&quot; income).  Unfortunatly, if you&#039;re young, you may not have the safety net needed to weather a 4 month &quot;dry spell&quot;, so plan carefully!

I&#039;ve not really found that there is any great strategy for how to handle this problem faced by those of us on a variable income.  I&#039;ve been working continuously since leaving my &quot;regular job&quot; and have a couple of tips.

1) DON&#039;T put all your eggs in one basket.  If it all possible, keep multiple clients, even if they sometimes feel that they could use you more of the time.  I often negotiate with my clients to take a week or two off to see another client when I know the requesting client is in a bind, and assure the consenting client that I&#039;ll be there around the clock when crunch-time comes!

2) DO investigate your tax situation thoroughly.  I&#039;ve found enormous amounts of my expenses can be claimed back, just by carefully looking at the rules, and speaking with an experienced accountant.

3) AVOID planning vacations like a &quot;regular&quot; employee.  By this, I mean just because you may be coming to a client regularly, or even work out of their office, don&#039;t request &quot;time off&quot;.  I plan my vacations around times when I know business will slow down or there will be fewer billable days, such as the end of a big project or winter holidays.

4) DO carefully plan your vacations.  This one applies to everyone.  I love vacations to low-cost locales like Thailand.  I&#039;ve found that I can take 3 weeks off, and rent out my apartment in London such that the entire adventure ends up costing little more than the cost of the flight.  Check out sites like Craigslist in the US, or Gumtree in the UK for these types of trades, or people looking for short term rentals.  **Make sure you have some reason to trust the renter (deposit, or your own insurance).  Again, book the travel for a time when you won&#039;t make much money anyway, don&#039;t risk upsetting clients and losing out on that contract!

5) DO buy business cards/website/.  Sites like e-lance.com can design software, websites, etc. at very low cost provided you&#039;re capable of designing a real business requirements document for the typically non-business savvy developers working on your project.  My $3,000 investments in these has helped me close over $80,000 in business, as well as recruit other independent contractors with similar skillsets into my contact group (useful when you can help a client staff one of them, and make a regular percentage without even working!).

6) When you&#039;re planning your finances, remember why you went &quot;independent&quot; to begin with - you work at your pleasure, and that&#039;s worth something (even if you can&#039;t include it in your budget).

I plan for 40 days off per year (vacations, public holidays, sick-leave).  This amounts to about 85% utilisation.  DON&#039;T calculate based on a 240 day work-year... it won&#039;t happen unless your client loves paying you overtime that they didn&#039;t budget for!

I&#039;ve not found Quicken, GNU Cash, etc. to be terribly useful when it comes to managing my money.  I will say that I&#039;m somewhat excited to see what&#039;s going to be offered by www.mint.com&#039;s eventual offering (currently &quot;vaporware&quot;).  I end up spending more time documenting and reviewing/comparing these things than taking any pro-active measures.  Perhaps irresponsibly, I&#039;ve taken a budgeting approach that is much more broad.  I put away for what I have as fixed expenses (including 10% to savings), the rest is budgeted based on spending twice as much on entertainment as I did at University.  I also usually throw in a small vacation fund, just in case I decide to go somewhere where I can&#039;t live on $5/day!

My money allocations aren&#039;t as sophisticated as I&#039;d like, as I need to be very liquid and stable in the upcoming 2 years (paying cash for an MBA), but I always know where my money is, and that gives me piece of mind, if not the returns I could be seeing.

Feel free to drop me an email if you&#039;d like to chat about anything I&#039;ve said!  

Wael &quot;a.k.a. Wa-Eazie&quot;
welrifai@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 26 and recently joined the ranks of independent consultants after a stint as a consultant at a Silicon Valley software firm which gave me a good underlying skillset and social networking skills/contacts.  Those of us who &#8220;go independent&#8221; know that the financial rewards can be great (I&#8217;ve personally seen an increase in income of 100% on an already high &#8220;employee&#8221; income).  Unfortunatly, if you&#8217;re young, you may not have the safety net needed to weather a 4 month &#8220;dry spell&#8221;, so plan carefully!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not really found that there is any great strategy for how to handle this problem faced by those of us on a variable income.  I&#8217;ve been working continuously since leaving my &#8220;regular job&#8221; and have a couple of tips.</p>
<p>1) DON&#8217;T put all your eggs in one basket.  If it all possible, keep multiple clients, even if they sometimes feel that they could use you more of the time.  I often negotiate with my clients to take a week or two off to see another client when I know the requesting client is in a bind, and assure the consenting client that I&#8217;ll be there around the clock when crunch-time comes!</p>
<p>2) DO investigate your tax situation thoroughly.  I&#8217;ve found enormous amounts of my expenses can be claimed back, just by carefully looking at the rules, and speaking with an experienced accountant.</p>
<p>3) AVOID planning vacations like a &#8220;regular&#8221; employee.  By this, I mean just because you may be coming to a client regularly, or even work out of their office, don&#8217;t request &#8220;time off&#8221;.  I plan my vacations around times when I know business will slow down or there will be fewer billable days, such as the end of a big project or winter holidays.</p>
<p>4) DO carefully plan your vacations.  This one applies to everyone.  I love vacations to low-cost locales like Thailand.  I&#8217;ve found that I can take 3 weeks off, and rent out my apartment in London such that the entire adventure ends up costing little more than the cost of the flight.  Check out sites like Craigslist in the US, or Gumtree in the UK for these types of trades, or people looking for short term rentals.  **Make sure you have some reason to trust the renter (deposit, or your own insurance).  Again, book the travel for a time when you won&#8217;t make much money anyway, don&#8217;t risk upsetting clients and losing out on that contract!</p>
<p>5) DO buy business cards/website/.  Sites like e-lance.com can design software, websites, etc. at very low cost provided you&#8217;re capable of designing a real business requirements document for the typically non-business savvy developers working on your project.  My $3,000 investments in these has helped me close over $80,000 in business, as well as recruit other independent contractors with similar skillsets into my contact group (useful when you can help a client staff one of them, and make a regular percentage without even working!).</p>
<p>6) When you&#8217;re planning your finances, remember why you went &#8220;independent&#8221; to begin with &#8211; you work at your pleasure, and that&#8217;s worth something (even if you can&#8217;t include it in your budget).</p>
<p>I plan for 40 days off per year (vacations, public holidays, sick-leave).  This amounts to about 85% utilisation.  DON&#8217;T calculate based on a 240 day work-year&#8230; it won&#8217;t happen unless your client loves paying you overtime that they didn&#8217;t budget for!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not found Quicken, GNU Cash, etc. to be terribly useful when it comes to managing my money.  I will say that I&#8217;m somewhat excited to see what&#8217;s going to be offered by <a href="http://www.mint.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mint.com</a>&#8217;s eventual offering (currently &#8220;vaporware&#8221;).  I end up spending more time documenting and reviewing/comparing these things than taking any pro-active measures.  Perhaps irresponsibly, I&#8217;ve taken a budgeting approach that is much more broad.  I put away for what I have as fixed expenses (including 10% to savings), the rest is budgeted based on spending twice as much on entertainment as I did at University.  I also usually throw in a small vacation fund, just in case I decide to go somewhere where I can&#8217;t live on $5/day!</p>
<p>My money allocations aren&#8217;t as sophisticated as I&#8217;d like, as I need to be very liquid and stable in the upcoming 2 years (paying cash for an MBA), but I always know where my money is, and that gives me piece of mind, if not the returns I could be seeing.</p>
<p>Feel free to drop me an email if you&#8217;d like to chat about anything I&#8217;ve said!  </p>
<p>Wael &#8220;a.k.a. Wa-Eazie&#8221;<br />
<a href="mailto:welrifai@gmail.com">welrifai@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: YBP Guide &#8212; Budgeting on an Irregular Income</title>
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		<dc:creator>YBP Guide &#8212; Budgeting on an Irregular Income</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You To Be Rich&#8221; asked his readers about budgeting on an irregular income to his readers and here is what they had to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Archie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to have an irregular income every so often, and the easiest 2 things to do are:
1. Come up with a list of at least estimates of your monthly payments. You WILL know beforehand approximately how much you expect to pay on utilities, rent, any credit card bills. Then factor in about $50 per week for groceries and $150 per month on utilities (upper-level estimates - in NYC, these are fairly valid!) - and so on.
2. Then take the lowest number you are likely to receive and run the above numbers against that. This should give you some indication of how much &quot;spending cash&quot; you might be expected to have left over, in a worst-case situation (i.e., your expenses don&#039;t become less, your income doesn&#039;t go higher). This will give you some starting point of how much to start putting away each month, no matter what. It could be $200 but trust me on this - I&#039;ve found money for $1500 apartment deposits plus one month rent, just by squirelling away that &quot;$200 a month&quot;!!

Over and above everything else - DON&#039;T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF!!! Some months just will be crappy, and expenses will pop up out of nowhere. Don&#039;t worry too much.

And here&#039;s the best advice  I was given, even if 2 years too late:
1. ALWAYS try to keep an emergency fund (even $500 - yeah, I know it&#039;s a lot!) can make a difference in a bad month)
2. Absolutely, positively do NOT use your CC for any &quot;wishful&quot; expenses. I am still paying mine from 6 years ago!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to have an irregular income every so often, and the easiest 2 things to do are:<br />
1. Come up with a list of at least estimates of your monthly payments. You WILL know beforehand approximately how much you expect to pay on utilities, rent, any credit card bills. Then factor in about $50 per week for groceries and $150 per month on utilities (upper-level estimates &#8211; in NYC, these are fairly valid!) &#8211; and so on.<br />
2. Then take the lowest number you are likely to receive and run the above numbers against that. This should give you some indication of how much &#8220;spending cash&#8221; you might be expected to have left over, in a worst-case situation (i.e., your expenses don&#8217;t become less, your income doesn&#8217;t go higher). This will give you some starting point of how much to start putting away each month, no matter what. It could be $200 but trust me on this &#8211; I&#8217;ve found money for $1500 apartment deposits plus one month rent, just by squirelling away that &#8220;$200 a month&#8221;!!</p>
<p>Over and above everything else &#8211; DON&#8217;T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF!!! Some months just will be crappy, and expenses will pop up out of nowhere. Don&#8217;t worry too much.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the best advice  I was given, even if 2 years too late:<br />
1. ALWAYS try to keep an emergency fund (even $500 &#8211; yeah, I know it&#8217;s a lot!) can make a difference in a bad month)<br />
2. Absolutely, positively do NOT use your CC for any &#8220;wishful&#8221; expenses. I am still paying mine from 6 years ago!!!</p>
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		<title>By: soufulow</title>
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		<dc:creator>soufulow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been working freelance for about two years, everytime the pay check comes in (which is in irregular order), i&#039;ll cut 1/3 of it into my FD savings. the rest of 2/3 will be used to cover all the expenses (both personals and biz). when time is right, the money in the saving accounts will be transfered to appropriate investment vehicles.

I still goes overspent some time for now (expecially with credit card) but by doing this, its been the best in limiting myself to spend within my means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working freelance for about two years, everytime the pay check comes in (which is in irregular order), i&#8217;ll cut 1/3 of it into my FD savings. the rest of 2/3 will be used to cover all the expenses (both personals and biz). when time is right, the money in the saving accounts will be transfered to appropriate investment vehicles.</p>
<p>I still goes overspent some time for now (expecially with credit card) but by doing this, its been the best in limiting myself to spend within my means.</p>
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		<title>By: splodge</title>
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		<dc:creator>splodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;and my spending even seems to increase due to much larger amounts of restaurant food (OMG NO TIME FOR GROCERIES!!1!).

The solution is the same as for managing your money: plan in advance.

Invest in a small deep freeze.

If you&#039;re no cook, find a friend who is and who(for the right price) is willing to do a couple of pots of things which you can freeze in takeway food containers or freezer bags in one-meal portions. Or - find a source of commercial frozen meals that are palatable and healthy.  They&#039;re generally cheaper than restaurant meals and these days, some of them are pretty good.  Go for stews and curries. Pasta can be okay too (basically, stay away from meat and 3 veg, it reheats badly).  Soups, of course,  are perfect for freezing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;and my spending even seems to increase due to much larger amounts of restaurant food (OMG NO TIME FOR GROCERIES!!1!).</p>
<p>The solution is the same as for managing your money: plan in advance.</p>
<p>Invest in a small deep freeze.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re no cook, find a friend who is and who(for the right price) is willing to do a couple of pots of things which you can freeze in takeway food containers or freezer bags in one-meal portions. Or &#8211; find a source of commercial frozen meals that are palatable and healthy.  They&#8217;re generally cheaper than restaurant meals and these days, some of them are pretty good.  Go for stews and curries. Pasta can be okay too (basically, stay away from meat and 3 veg, it reheats badly).  Soups, of course,  are perfect for freezing.</p>
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		<title>By: moom</title>
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		<dc:creator>moom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t budget.</description>
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		<title>By: candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;and my spending even seems to increase due to much larger amounts of restaurant food (OMG NO TIME FOR GROCERIES!!1!).

One suggestion I have for this is keep a &quot;sanity fund&quot; item in the budget somewhere.  One or two hundred dollars a month to be used (or not) on things like that.  Take it out in cash and don&#039;t worry about where it goes, and if there&#039;s something left over, buy groceries out of it.   It&#039;s a line item on the budget, so it&#039;s accountable, but not causing stress.   

Also, consultant people, make sure you take out money to give to the tax man every quarter.   Penalties for failing to file quarterly suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;and my spending even seems to increase due to much larger amounts of restaurant food (OMG NO TIME FOR GROCERIES!!1!).</p>
<p>One suggestion I have for this is keep a &#8220;sanity fund&#8221; item in the budget somewhere.  One or two hundred dollars a month to be used (or not) on things like that.  Take it out in cash and don&#8217;t worry about where it goes, and if there&#8217;s something left over, buy groceries out of it.   It&#8217;s a line item on the budget, so it&#8217;s accountable, but not causing stress.   </p>
<p>Also, consultant people, make sure you take out money to give to the tax man every quarter.   Penalties for failing to file quarterly suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Saymorre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saymorre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Ramit and everyone else. I keep coming back for more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ramit and everyone else. I keep coming back for more info.</p>
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