Comments on: How a pro does it — My friend Rachel made $1,000 an hour negotiating a new job http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/ Personal finance blog for college students, recent graduates and everyone else -- including entrepreneurship -- for getting rich. Featured in the Wall Street Journal and New York Times. Sun, 8 Nov 2009 06:09:27 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Ryan http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-83114 Ryan Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:14:33 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-83114 great inspirational article about getting up and persevering and making your experience and skills work for you... however I don't see where any negotiation came into play. So she got offered more money than her previous job? The title is misleading. great inspirational article about getting up and persevering and making your experience and skills work for you… however I don’t see where any negotiation came into play. So she got offered more money than her previous job? The title is misleading.

]]> By: Rich Resume Blog » Blog Archive » Stop Blaming the Econ http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-54532 Rich Resume Blog » Blog Archive » Stop Blaming the Econ Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:37:27 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-54532 [...] the Mint.com online financial management tool. Rather than me trying to re-create the wheel, follow this link and check out how one dedicated job seeker made it through the interview gauntlet for a job she [...] [...] the Mint.com online financial management tool. Rather than me trying to re-create the wheel, follow this link and check out how one dedicated job seeker made it through the interview gauntlet for a job she [...]

]]> By: Andrew’s Time Log » Sunday 2/17/08 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-53047 Andrew’s Time Log » Sunday 2/17/08 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:53:21 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-53047 [...] more reading (i will teach you to be rich, IMDB about Born Rich, a few other sites). I have several good ideas for writing… Ok, now am [...] [...] more reading (i will teach you to be rich, IMDB about Born Rich, a few other sites). I have several good ideas for writing… Ok, now am [...]

]]> By: Mehul http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-52807 Mehul Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:33:18 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-52807 So if Rachael worked a normal forty hour work week, she would make $40000 for the week? How intensive is this job? So if Rachael worked a normal forty hour work week, she would make $40000 for the week? How intensive is this job?

]]> By: Focused and the resourceful grab the jobs they want! : Business Musings http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-52659 Focused and the resourceful grab the jobs they want! : Business Musings Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:15:22 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-52659 [...] shows that focus and serious work can meet with success and luck. Here is another example of a lady who was not the most experienced in marketing in the line-up of candidates but won on sheer [...] [...] shows that focus and serious work can meet with success and luck. Here is another example of a lady who was not the most experienced in marketing in the line-up of candidates but won on sheer [...]

]]> By: April http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-52338 April Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:30:05 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-52338 Lea--maybe you should focus on a handful of companies and go the extra mile to get noticed. I don't suggest electronically submitting resumes, and if they require it, I'd do it, but still drop it off in person. I include lots of extras that other applicants probably won't include...some of the things Ramit's friend does, some others that I mentioned above, too. I think submitting 30 applications a week and only doing the minimun isn't as effective as researching several companies and really putting forth effort with each of those. I imagine that any job listing gets dozens or maybe hundreds of applicants, so the trick is to make them remember you, even if you think you might be going at it a little too aggresively (I did think this, but it got me the job). Lea–maybe you should focus on a handful of companies and go the extra mile to get noticed. I don’t suggest electronically submitting resumes, and if they require it, I’d do it, but still drop it off in person. I include lots of extras that other applicants probably won’t include…some of the things Ramit’s friend does, some others that I mentioned above, too.

I think submitting 30 applications a week and only doing the minimun isn’t as effective as researching several companies and really putting forth effort with each of those. I imagine that any job listing gets dozens or maybe hundreds of applicants, so the trick is to make them remember you, even if you think you might be going at it a little too aggresively (I did think this, but it got me the job).

]]> By: April http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-52337 April Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:24:15 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-52337 I did something similar to this to get the job I have now. The first time I applied, I couldn't get a phone call. So a year later, when another position opened up, I politely stalked the decision-makers. I dropped off my resume, letters of recommendation, and writing samples. I included a copy of my qualifications for each item listed on the job description and a "first 90 days" plan of action. Then I looked at the job code and was able to figure out that the code used the first and last initials of the decision-maker for that opening, and I looked for her e-mail address on the website. I sent her a quick e-mail introducing myself and saying I was looking forward to interviewing. After the first interview, I sent a round of handwritten thank-you notes to everyone in the room. After the second interview, I did it again. I also researched the organization and came prepared with three strengths to really emphasize (kind of like branding) and a list of questions to ask them. It was a ton of work, but it got me the job. My biggest downfall was that I accepted the salary they offered without trying to negotiate it more. It was slightly higher than what I had made before, and I was so worried about having to tell them that I was leaving for Europe in two weeks that I just accepted it. Dumb move, I know. I did something similar to this to get the job I have now. The first time I applied, I couldn’t get a phone call. So a year later, when another position opened up, I politely stalked the decision-makers. I dropped off my resume, letters of recommendation, and writing samples. I included a copy of my qualifications for each item listed on the job description and a “first 90 days” plan of action. Then I looked at the job code and was able to figure out that the code used the first and last initials of the decision-maker for that opening, and I looked for her e-mail address on the website. I sent her a quick e-mail introducing myself and saying I was looking forward to interviewing. After the first interview, I sent a round of handwritten thank-you notes to everyone in the room. After the second interview, I did it again. I also researched the organization and came prepared with three strengths to really emphasize (kind of like branding) and a list of questions to ask them.

It was a ton of work, but it got me the job. My biggest downfall was that I accepted the salary they offered without trying to negotiate it more. It was slightly higher than what I had made before, and I was so worried about having to tell them that I was leaving for Europe in two weeks that I just accepted it. Dumb move, I know.

]]> By: Lea http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-51903 Lea Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:47:43 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-51903 Congrats to Rachel - she did well. :) My 'problem' with job hunting has always been picking out the jobs to actually work for - its hard putting out lots of apps every week and then never hearing a word back from them. How can you justify putting in 20 or 40 hours of work on a job app, with no idea if they will actually look at it or not? Ideally, I reckon job applications should go more like: - put in basic application, little more than submit cv, maybe answer a quick online multiple choice - this is probably automatically filtered - the short list gets notice of same, so they can go into a flurry of work, knowing that someone will actually look at their app. Of course, ideally recruiters would manage this, but I often wonder how they earn any money, given how often they don't reply. :( My dream world is a happy place ;) Lea Congrats to Rachel – she did well. :)

My ‘problem’ with job hunting has always been picking out the jobs to actually work for – its hard putting out lots of apps every week and then never hearing a word back from them. How can you justify putting in 20 or 40 hours of work on a job app, with no idea if they will actually look at it or not?

Ideally, I reckon job applications should go more like:
- put in basic application, little more than submit cv, maybe answer a quick online multiple choice
- this is probably automatically filtered
- the short list gets notice of same, so they can go into a flurry of work, knowing that someone will actually look at their app.

Of course, ideally recruiters would manage this, but I often wonder how they earn any money, given how often they don’t reply. :(

My dream world is a happy place ;)

Lea

]]> By: Liz http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-51558 Liz Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:26:01 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-51558 I can totally relate in a way. I had went on the interview for my current job a few weeks before my graduation (assoc. in graphic design). I hadn't done any extra research but still had everything I had learn in school fresh in my head. I just went in and showed my stuff, needless to say they were very impressed. The company is small, but quickly growing. The position i was applying for was an unpaid internship, but I was straight up with them and said I can't work for free (especially because my program at school didn't offer internships at all). Six weeks later I got a call for a full-time position to start immediately, and that was almost a year ago. I can totally relate in a way. I had went on the interview for my current job a few weeks before my graduation (assoc. in graphic design). I hadn’t done any extra research but still had everything I had learn in school fresh in my head. I just went in and showed my stuff, needless to say they were very impressed. The company is small, but quickly growing. The position i was applying for was an unpaid internship, but I was straight up with them and said I can’t work for free (especially because my program at school didn’t offer internships at all). Six weeks later I got a call for a full-time position to start immediately, and that was almost a year ago.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job/comment-page-1/#comment-51507 Elizabeth Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:39:36 +0000 http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/how-a-pro-does-it-my-friend-rachel-made-1000-an-hour-negotiating-a-new-job#comment-51507 I'm glad I came across this article. I'm in the process of searching for a job now and this article was really inspiring. I too have an eclectic resume!! I’m glad I came across this article. I’m in the process of searching for a job now and this article was really inspiring. I too have an eclectic resume!!

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