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[Update]: Please join these two Facebook groups *today* (Monday, 6/11) in order to help iwillteachyoutoberich readers win two $1,000 scholarships. Details below.
Summary of this post: Help me give away $2,000 in scholarships by joining two Facebook groups by this Monday, June 11th.
More detail: P2P lending lets you lend and borrow directly from people based on trust (e.g., Prosper.com and LendingClub) with insanely better interest rates. LendingClub is a new organization that I’m interested in. If we have the most people join the LendingClub Facebook group by this Monday, June 11, we’ll win $5,000.
If iwillteachyoutoberich readers help win by joining the most, I’ll give away a $1,000 scholarship to a college student who reads iwillteachyoutoberich, a $1,000 scholarship to a recent grad, and I’ll loan out $1,000 using LendingClub. (I’ll keep the other $2k to pay the taxes / save / go to Vegas.)
To help win…
That’s it!
More details, along with what I spoke to the LendingClub CEO about, below.
I just ran across something really interesting and I’m encouraging you to give it a try. Many of you have heard of Prosper.com, which lets you loan and borrow directly from other people. You get higher interest rates because you’re going direct and bypassing the bank marketing, security, and other infrastructure costs.
LendingClub lets you borrow and lend money directly to people in your own network. I spoke to Renaud Laplanche, the CEO, about his model. “We can provide a 3% better return by cutting out the middlemen activities that money banks spend on their supply chain: security, bank, real estate, marketing to get the deposit and then to spend the loan.”
In other words, because it’s direct, they can offer better returns. Check it out (my explanation below):

To lend money:

To borrow money:

Now I’ve written about teaser bank rates before. To be really clear, LendingClub is not a bank and they don’t offer FDIC insurance. If you lend, you could lose your money (although they do credit checks and report to credit bureaus). If you’re going to lend or borrow, I would start off with something modest like $100 and see how it goes. But I’m more excited about these innovative new models that cut out the middlemen and let us play around with small amounts of money. For me, it’s not really about the extra $20 or $200 I could make using these models, but playing around with a new model that seems interesting and promising. 5 or 10 years from now, maybe P2P lending will seem like a no-brainer.
I asked Renaud why anyone should use LendingClub. “Launching on Facebook was, for us, a way to make that point very clear,” he told me. “We want people to borrow and lend based on trust. You have networks, you have groups, and we can match people who are not only friends, but friends-of-friends or belong to the same network.” What kind of network, I asked? “Well, you have fellow alumni, people in the same geographical network, the same professional network…all of these things make you much more comfortable, that you’re not complete strangers.”
Renaud noted that if you lend a bank your money (i.e., put it in savings), the high-interest ones pay you about 5%. The crappy ones pay you 0.5%. But the banks then turn around and charge about 12% for personal loans, giving them a huge 7%-11.5% spread on your money. He added that the default rate for banks (or the amount of people that don’t pay back their loans) is less than 1%, “so why are they charging so much?”
What to do
A group on Facebook is running a promotion to get people interested in LendingClub. You don’t have to buy anything or even sign up (although I would encourage you to poke around). If we all join two groups on Facebook, we could win $5,000, of which I’ll give away $1,000 to a college-student iwillteachyoutoberich scholarship, $1,000 to a recent-grad iwillteachyoutoberich scholarship, and I’ll loan $1,000 on LendingClub and report back on how it went. I’ll keep the rest to pay taxes / save / travel.
Note: I’ve already set up an account through LendingClub and as soon as it’s verified, I’ll be loaning $500 through the site to test it out.
Here’s how can help iwillteachyoutoberich readers win $5,000:
1. First, join my facebook group, IWillTeachYouToBeRich P2P lending = reduce stupid bank fees
2. Then join the LendingClub facebook group
That’s it!
Note: You must join both! By joining both, they can see who sent the most people to the LendingClub facebook group.
Need more info? Check out the LendingClub web page and their terms of lending. Remember, we have to have the most people join both groups by this Monday, June 11th.
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Emma Seaber
June 8th, 2007
Now then, how do you decide which college stuent gets the $1,000?
It's my birthday on Saturday. Pick me.
Ramit Sethi
June 8th, 2007
A simple application and a look at what they've done. I did this for my last scholarship at http://scholarships.ramitsethi.com (site temporarily down).
Enrique
June 8th, 2007
Ramit:
How would they know, you send us?
Enrique
June 8th, 2007
o.k. I joined both clubs.
Makam
June 8th, 2007
Me too!
David Wilson
June 8th, 2007
Signed up for both groups. Should we be trying to invite our friends to make the group bigger, or is this just for IWTYTBR readers? So cool of you to be doing the scholarships! I'm also quite interested in learning more about P2P lending, seems like a good deal for both parties. Be sure to update us on how that $1000 experiment works, if you wind up winning.
Ramit Sethi
June 8th, 2007
Yes, PLEASE tell everyone! If you share it with all of your Facebook friends, it could grow explosively. Click "Share" from within the group.
Caitlyn
June 8th, 2007
I've joined 'em!
JR
June 8th, 2007
Joined both.
Jay Neely
June 8th, 2007
Hi Ramit,
I just wrote a fairly extensive overview of social lending sites on my blog, including both LendingClub and Prosper. I just joined both your Facebook groups, in my post I pointed out that social lending has the potential for a significant cultural impact by showing students what they can do with their money other than spend it on themselves.
If you're interested in reading, the entry is "Small Loans, Big Bucks: The World of Social Lending":
http://socialstrategist.com/2007/06/08/small-loans-big-bucks-the-world-of-social-lending
Best,
Jay Neely, Social Strategist
http://socialstrategist.com
JW
June 9th, 2007
I joined the group about having attempted to ford the river only to endure the deaths of my [expletive deleted] oxen, but I don't suppose there's a grand in it for me on account of that.
Shak R
June 9th, 2007
Just joined both groups -- here's to hoping we'll win.
Will have to do more research on Lending Club later on, but it does seem pretty interesting.
Lee
June 10th, 2007
I'm majoring in rocket science, pick me.
MissJackson
June 10th, 2007
DONE
Andy
June 10th, 2007
How about purchasing a REIT instead of lending in this environment. still get a 6% div without the default risk you assume in this situation.
Jim
June 11th, 2007
Done... and Iwillteachyoutoberich looks way out in front so far.
David
June 11th, 2007
Hey Ramit,
I joined both of the clubs and provided a link to my website which provides a little more information about Prosper.com as well as my 'Prosper pick of the week.'
Cheers,
Dave
paul
June 11th, 2007
So by joining these two groups, you will randomly select 1 person to give the $1,000 to?
Ramit Sethi
June 11th, 2007
Thanks all!
If we win the contest, I'll offer two $1,000 scholarhips. They'll require an application (as any scholarship does). Separately, I'll loan out $1,000 through LendingClub to see how it goes!
Stefan Paszlack
June 11th, 2007
Just joined! Awesome work, truly an inspiration to young people.
I Will Teach You To Be Rich » Well, we got 5th place
June 12th, 2007
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Rex Dixon
June 12th, 2007
Thanks for the great promotion of Lending Club!
Rex
Josh
June 14th, 2007
Is there anything to keep you from arbitrage-ing the bejeezus out of this? Perhaps they do not allow any single SSN to be both a lender and a borrower?
Assuming you have a good credit score, you can borrow money at a good rate, and loan it at a bad one. Assuming the loan terms are the same, the person with the bad rate will just pay the initial lender back their money and you keep the slice in the middle.
I suppose there is inherent risk. However, if it works out, you make interest on an undetermined amount of money you do not even have.
Am I missing something? This sounds too much like free money.
~Josh
Mike
June 28th, 2007
Ramit-
What are your thoughts on this website vs prosper? I have tried to borrow money a few times on prosper and it never seems to work. - I haven't tried to lend yet there
Tim
October 28th, 2007
What ever happened with this?