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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/guy-gets-ripped-off-is-embarrassed/#comment-4638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, paying in cash is the best way to go.  PEOPLE- LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS.  If you can&#039;t afford a car, rough it for a bit without one. Or use a zipcar if you are in a city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, paying in cash is the best way to go.  PEOPLE- LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS.  If you can&#8217;t afford a car, rough it for a bit without one. Or use a zipcar if you are in a city.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/guy-gets-ripped-off-is-embarrassed/#comment-4393</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paying with cash if possible is almost always the way to go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paying with cash if possible is almost always the way to go!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/guy-gets-ripped-off-is-embarrassed/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simple.  I&#039;m kind of surprised no one has mentioned this...but in our society today it&#039;s just accepted that people will always have car loans.
Sell the car!  You may be upside down on it so get a loan from a local bank or CU to cover the difference.  And most importantly...drive a car you can afford.  If you are making monthly payments, you can&#039;t afford it!  Ever heard of Dave Ramsey?  Radio talk show host who gives very good advice on these areas of personal finance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simple.  I&#8217;m kind of surprised no one has mentioned this&#8230;but in our society today it&#8217;s just accepted that people will always have car loans.  </p>
<p>Sell the car!  You may be upside down on it so get a loan from a local bank or CU to cover the difference.  And most importantly&#8230;drive a car you can afford.  If you are making monthly payments, you can&#8217;t afford it!  Ever heard of Dave Ramsey?  Radio talk show host who gives very good advice on these areas of personal finance.</p>
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		<title>By: Björn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Björn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should read &#039;Influence - The Psychology of Persuasion&#039; by Robert Cialdini so he would never make such a mistake again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should read &#8216;Influence &#8211; The Psychology of Persuasion&#8217; by Robert Cialdini so he would never make such a mistake again.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/guy-gets-ripped-off-is-embarrassed/#comment-4272</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back I was involved in a car accident with my brand new car.  Sadly, it wasn&#039;t my fault but the other people fled the scene.  Insurance wriggled out of paying so I was stuck with a repo on my credit.
Last year I went to buy a new car.  I work for a mortgage bank so I know how financing worked and did my homework.
The very best interest rate they&#039;d give me was 22.9% and this was after checking a number of dealers.  I make good money and while I wasn&#039;t happy about that rate I didn&#039;t have a lot of choice...I needed a car.
Six months later I refinanced and dropped my rate to 13.9%.  I also overpaid every single month to get my principal down.  High interest on low principal is a lot less painful.
In this case the gentleman who made the mistake and bought his car at a high interest rate is stuck.  If they gave him a 17% interest rate they didn&#039;t do it because they make more money.  They did it because that&#039;s what he qualifies for based on his credit.
As was mentioned above when the dealer gets paid on financing it&#039;s a lump sum and the actual interest rate on the loan doesn&#039;t matter as much.  The loan amount does.
Without knowing more we don&#039;t even know if this guy got a bad deal.  He may have horrible or no credit and that could explain the 17% interest.
All he can do is go to his credit union or apply for a car refi online.  There is almost certainly no prepay on his existing loan since nearly every dealer uses a simple interest loan.
If he did get ripped off the only way to help himself is to refi that loan at a better institution.  If he can afford it returning the car should be a last resort because (from personal experience) I can tell you it will shatter his credit.  It&#039;s taken me a good 3-4 years to recover mine.
I do find it sad that most people suggest going after the &#039;shady dealer&#039;.  No one forced him to sign, and in all likelihood 17% is about right based on his credit.
Sure, he could call media attention to this.  But this was his mistake...not theirs.  Why penalize the dealer unless they broke a promise to him?
Of course, if they did, that&#039;s a whole other story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back I was involved in a car accident with my brand new car.  Sadly, it wasn&#8217;t my fault but the other people fled the scene.  Insurance wriggled out of paying so I was stuck with a repo on my credit.</p>
<p>Last year I went to buy a new car.  I work for a mortgage bank so I know how financing worked and did my homework.</p>
<p>The very best interest rate they&#8217;d give me was 22.9% and this was after checking a number of dealers.  I make good money and while I wasn&#8217;t happy about that rate I didn&#8217;t have a lot of choice&#8230;I needed a car.</p>
<p>Six months later I refinanced and dropped my rate to 13.9%.  I also overpaid every single month to get my principal down.  High interest on low principal is a lot less painful.</p>
<p>In this case the gentleman who made the mistake and bought his car at a high interest rate is stuck.  If they gave him a 17% interest rate they didn&#8217;t do it because they make more money.  They did it because that&#8217;s what he qualifies for based on his credit.</p>
<p>As was mentioned above when the dealer gets paid on financing it&#8217;s a lump sum and the actual interest rate on the loan doesn&#8217;t matter as much.  The loan amount does.</p>
<p>Without knowing more we don&#8217;t even know if this guy got a bad deal.  He may have horrible or no credit and that could explain the 17% interest.</p>
<p>All he can do is go to his credit union or apply for a car refi online.  There is almost certainly no prepay on his existing loan since nearly every dealer uses a simple interest loan.</p>
<p>If he did get ripped off the only way to help himself is to refi that loan at a better institution.  If he can afford it returning the car should be a last resort because (from personal experience) I can tell you it will shatter his credit.  It&#8217;s taken me a good 3-4 years to recover mine.</p>
<p>I do find it sad that most people suggest going after the &#8216;shady dealer&#8217;.  No one forced him to sign, and in all likelihood 17% is about right based on his credit.  </p>
<p>Sure, he could call media attention to this.  But this was his mistake&#8230;not theirs.  Why penalize the dealer unless they broke a promise to him?</p>
<p>Of course, if they did, that&#8217;s a whole other story.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Keezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Keezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Truth in Lending Act only applies to Financial Institutes.  They disclosed the information to the Auto Dealership which was a third party acting in behalf of you.  This regulation was not violated unless you can prove the lender did not disclose the information to the auto dealership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth in Lending Act only applies to Financial Institutes.  They disclosed the information to the Auto Dealership which was a third party acting in behalf of you.  This regulation was not violated unless you can prove the lender did not disclose the information to the auto dealership.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone should re-read comment #30.  The &quot;friend&quot; is getting a 17% loan because he probably deserves it.
Trying to make some sort of grandstand play in the local media over this is silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should re-read comment #30.  The &#8220;friend&#8221; is getting a 17% loan because he probably deserves it.</p>
<p>Trying to make some sort of grandstand play in the local media over this is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: sfwriter</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing to be embarrassed about getting ripped off. At least you&#039;re seeking solutions.
No problems are being solved by living in fear or fear of judgment
I&#039;ve made some bad purchases in the past but just learn from the mistake and do your best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing to be embarrassed about getting ripped off. At least you&#8217;re seeking solutions.</p>
<p>No problems are being solved by living in fear or fear of judgment </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made some bad purchases in the past but just learn from the mistake and do your best.</p>
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		<title>By: Finance Guide 101</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finance Guide 101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Jenny (3rd reply) mentioned it&#039;s better not to get into late payment and yes lenders have rights to take the vehicle anytime for any reason because of the agreement which one makes with the lender. Everyone makes mistakes but one will be a successful if he/she tries to get rid of it and fixes the problem ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jenny (3rd reply) mentioned it&#8217;s better not to get into late payment and yes lenders have rights to take the vehicle anytime for any reason because of the agreement which one makes with the lender. Everyone makes mistakes but one will be a successful if he/she tries to get rid of it and fixes the problem ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consult a lawyer quickly and re-read the contract.  If there is a minimal (or zero) penalty for early payment, get in touch with another lender (try your bank or credit union) to transfer the loan to a lower rate.
Regardless, if you can&#039;t afford to buy that much vehicle, get a reliable used car next time.  Many can be found for under $5K.
Also, regarding post #32, I would take it a step further and send a letter to local newspaper/TV news companies (many of them have &quot;helping the common people&quot; segments) and send a copy to the dealership - included with a list of all recipients.  Explain that he tried to return the vehicle within 24 hours but was brushed off.  If the story is newsworthy, they may run it.
My college roommate and I exposed an awful landlord who neglected us tenants after a huricane flooded us out of our homes.  Local media picked up on it and we were quickly taken care of after that.  Our lease wasn&#039;t renewed at the end of the year, but at least we were able to get something done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consult a lawyer quickly and re-read the contract.  If there is a minimal (or zero) penalty for early payment, get in touch with another lender (try your bank or credit union) to transfer the loan to a lower rate.</p>
<p>Regardless, if you can&#8217;t afford to buy that much vehicle, get a reliable used car next time.  Many can be found for under $5K. </p>
<p>Also, regarding post #32, I would take it a step further and send a letter to local newspaper/TV news companies (many of them have &#8220;helping the common people&#8221; segments) and send a copy to the dealership &#8211; included with a list of all recipients.  Explain that he tried to return the vehicle within 24 hours but was brushed off.  If the story is newsworthy, they may run it.</p>
<p>My college roommate and I exposed an awful landlord who neglected us tenants after a huricane flooded us out of our homes.  Local media picked up on it and we were quickly taken care of after that.  Our lease wasn&#8217;t renewed at the end of the year, but at least we were able to get something done.</p>
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