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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/food-and-personal-finance-are-similar-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you blame anyone for overeating given the portion sizes you get when you eat out these days? I&#039;m not overweight, but I realized that I didn&#039;t enjoy the food coma I&#039;d have after every meal. I&#039;ve stopped eating before I feel full, and surprise! - no more food coma.


Most of our lives we&#039;ve had adults telling us to eat more. We don&#039;t need nearly as much food as we think we do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you blame anyone for overeating given the portion sizes you get when you eat out these days? I&#8217;m not overweight, but I realized that I didn&#8217;t enjoy the food coma I&#8217;d have after every meal. I&#8217;ve stopped eating before I feel full, and surprise! &#8211; no more food coma.</p>
<p>Most of our lives we&#8217;ve had adults telling us to eat more. We don&#8217;t need nearly as much food as we think we do.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the link here between personal finance and health boils down to a few key points. It has more to do with personality than just following a set of instructions.


First, balance is required. If you&#039;re the type of person that wants to enjoy life (and who isn&#039;t?) then you likely want to enjoy going out to eat, stopping off at Krispy Kreme for a donut and coffee now and then, having a beer with friends, a nice place to live and a decent car to get around in. You want to take nice vacations, etc.


But, if you go to extremes with those things you&#039;re not going to enjoy life. You&#039;re going to eat out too much, eat the wrong things too often, drink too much alcohol, take on more debt than you can handle, etc.

It&#039;s a matter of finding the balance in both your health (diet, exercise) and your finance (what you spend, where you spend it and what each purchase ultimately costs you).


The other key is having drive and discipline. Our cultural has a created this idea that you should get what you want now and you should be able to get it easily. (Credit cards, drive thru&#039;s at fast food restaurants, etc.) People that don&#039;t have the drive and discipline to make themselves eat the right things and exercise likely won&#039;t have the drive and discipline to make themselves get sufficient education and build a career that provides them with the means to live comfortably without overextending themselves.


The issue involves an individual&#039;s personality as well as how they&#039;ve allowed themselves to be shaped by advertising and mass media...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the link here between personal finance and health boils down to a few key points. It has more to do with personality than just following a set of instructions.</p>
<p>First, balance is required. If you&#8217;re the type of person that wants to enjoy life (and who isn&#8217;t?) then you likely want to enjoy going out to eat, stopping off at Krispy Kreme for a donut and coffee now and then, having a beer with friends, a nice place to live and a decent car to get around in. You want to take nice vacations, etc.</p>
<p>But, if you go to extremes with those things you&#8217;re not going to enjoy life. You&#8217;re going to eat out too much, eat the wrong things too often, drink too much alcohol, take on more debt than you can handle, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of finding the balance in both your health (diet, exercise) and your finance (what you spend, where you spend it and what each purchase ultimately costs you).</p>
<p>The other key is having drive and discipline. Our cultural has a created this idea that you should get what you want now and you should be able to get it easily. (Credit cards, drive thru&#8217;s at fast food restaurants, etc.) People that don&#8217;t have the drive and discipline to make themselves eat the right things and exercise likely won&#8217;t have the drive and discipline to make themselves get sufficient education and build a career that provides them with the means to live comfortably without overextending themselves.</p>
<p>The issue involves an individual&#8217;s personality as well as how they&#8217;ve allowed themselves to be shaped by advertising and mass media&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The definition wars are on.


The analogy between food and Pf only hold when you equate good nutrition with being skinny.  This is easy for a policy analyst and difficult for a true nutritionist.


In this analogy:


exercise=work at the highest paying job possible


eat less=spend less


don&#039;t go on a nifty diet=don&#039;t trust experts, they&#039;re trying to sell you snake oil


 . . . but, if you&#039;re already skinny and already exercise in the metaphorical and in the literal sense, it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that you are healthy and well nourished.  Approximately 1/3 of Americans are not (yet) over weight, but only 10% are adequately (not optimally, but adequately) nourished and less than half a percent of Americans are thought to be in optimal health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The definition wars are on.</p>
<p>The analogy between food and Pf only hold when you equate good nutrition with being skinny.  This is easy for a policy analyst and difficult for a true nutritionist.</p>
<p>In this analogy:</p>
<p>exercise=work at the highest paying job possible</p>
<p>eat less=spend less</p>
<p>don&#8217;t go on a nifty diet=don&#8217;t trust experts, they&#8217;re trying to sell you snake oil</p>
<p> . . . but, if you&#8217;re already skinny and already exercise in the metaphorical and in the literal sense, it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that you are healthy and well nourished.  Approximately 1/3 of Americans are not (yet) over weight, but only 10% are adequately (not optimally, but adequately) nourished and less than half a percent of Americans are thought to be in optimal health.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianM</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j @ #7 has it right, I believe. When I first started to lose weight, I would have friends and co-workers come up to me and ask &quot;What&#039;s your secret?&quot;


I would smile and say, &quot;Two things - first, I eat less, and second, I exercise more.&quot;


&quot;That&#039;s not what I meant!&quot; they&#039;d say. &quot;I know that already! I wanted to know YOUR SECRET.&quot; They wanted to know the way to eat all the things they want and STILL lose weight.


I think it&#039;s the same with money. It&#039;s easy to KNOW that you have to spend less than you take in. People just resist doing it because they want the OTHER easy thing, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j @ #7 has it right, I believe. When I first started to lose weight, I would have friends and co-workers come up to me and ask &#8220;What&#8217;s your secret?&#8221;</p>
<p>I would smile and say, &#8220;Two things &#8211; first, I eat less, and second, I exercise more.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s not what I meant!&#8221; they&#8217;d say. &#8220;I know that already! I wanted to know YOUR SECRET.&#8221; They wanted to know the way to eat all the things they want and STILL lose weight.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s the same with money. It&#8217;s easy to KNOW that you have to spend less than you take in. People just resist doing it because they want the OTHER easy thing, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blair Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is safe to say that your last paragraph pretty much sums up your philosophy and what you are trying to instill in us (your loyal readers) throughout your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is safe to say that your last paragraph pretty much sums up your philosophy and what you are trying to instill in us (your loyal readers) throughout your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding poster #1: It&#039;s not that being rich OR healthy is as &quot;easy&quot; as the basic advice (i.e. eating well, living under your means and using common sense). The point is that those things are HARD to do. Donuts are tempting and cheap while Plasma HDTVs are temptive and pricy. The tough thing to do is to act with restraint.


Where people fall into bad habits with money or food, I feel like the reason they take bizarre ways out like the zero carb only fruit juice diet or investing everything they have in some currency trading program they discovered on an infomercial is because they felt that THOSE things would be easy. 


Chasing &quot;sexy&quot; ideas is definitely a bad choice, and often those are the same as the &quot;easy&quot; ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding poster #1: It&#8217;s not that being rich OR healthy is as &#8220;easy&#8221; as the basic advice (i.e. eating well, living under your means and using common sense). The point is that those things are HARD to do. Donuts are tempting and cheap while Plasma HDTVs are temptive and pricy. The tough thing to do is to act with restraint.</p>
<p>Where people fall into bad habits with money or food, I feel like the reason they take bizarre ways out like the zero carb only fruit juice diet or investing everything they have in some currency trading program they discovered on an infomercial is because they felt that THOSE things would be easy. </p>
<p>Chasing &#8220;sexy&#8221; ideas is definitely a bad choice, and often those are the same as the &#8220;easy&#8221; ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit Mhapsekar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhijit Mhapsekar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ramit,


In India, high risk mutual funds are giving a return of about 50% annually, the highest being 66%, while medium risk funds are give a return of more than 35%. The profits made are tax free.


This has been the case since the last 2 years and the markets have been doing quite well here.


I&#039;m thinking of investing 6,000 USD in high risk funds and from then on a major part of my monthly salary for the next 18 months, so that i can fund my own business by then.


Since you are not in favour of investing in mutual funds, i&#039;m eager what you&#039;d advice me to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ramit,</p>
<p>In India, high risk mutual funds are giving a return of about 50% annually, the highest being 66%, while medium risk funds are give a return of more than 35%. The profits made are tax free.</p>
<p>This has been the case since the last 2 years and the markets have been doing quite well here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of investing 6,000 USD in high risk funds and from then on a major part of my monthly salary for the next 18 months, so that i can fund my own business by then.</p>
<p>Since you are not in favour of investing in mutual funds, i&#8217;m eager what you&#8217;d advice me to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Nagel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 01:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian,


Don&#039;t trust brokers. They are out for their best interest, not yours.

Mutual funds get fat off investors is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t trust brokers. They are out for their best interest, not yours.</p>
<p>Mutual funds get fat off investors is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Cris (and Cris, I must come see your article!).


Ramit and Cris, I&#039;m a big believer that &quot;sense of urgency&quot; can be destructive with both healthy eating and healthy finance. Both require a senseible plan, with a balance.


Cris, I also experienced that by learning mindfulness (that is to say, deciding to have a plan andmake good choices to stick to it) I have improved both my physical and financial health.


I imagined a lot of young, recent college-graduates might not understand this as much as I (hitting middle-age sooner rather than later sort) do, so Ramit, it&#039;s a pleasure to see you writing on this.


To Dimes, I say, the point doesn&#039;t IMO boil down in both cases to consume less. It boils down to &quot;know how much you can healthily consume based on your specific situation...formulate a plan to stick withiin that...and then make good choices that support that plan.&quot;


In both dieting and investing, I was surprised to learn I ought to consume a little more for my maximum benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Cris (and Cris, I must come see your article!).</p>
<p>Ramit and Cris, I&#8217;m a big believer that &#8220;sense of urgency&#8221; can be destructive with both healthy eating and healthy finance. Both require a senseible plan, with a balance.</p>
<p>Cris, I also experienced that by learning mindfulness (that is to say, deciding to have a plan andmake good choices to stick to it) I have improved both my physical and financial health.</p>
<p>I imagined a lot of young, recent college-graduates might not understand this as much as I (hitting middle-age sooner rather than later sort) do, so Ramit, it&#8217;s a pleasure to see you writing on this.</p>
<p>To Dimes, I say, the point doesn&#8217;t IMO boil down in both cases to consume less. It boils down to &#8220;know how much you can healthily consume based on your specific situation&#8230;formulate a plan to stick withiin that&#8230;and then make good choices that support that plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>In both dieting and investing, I was surprised to learn I ought to consume a little more for my maximum benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian - Queens, NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian - Queens, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Ramit, speaking of mutual funds, I go into my to the local Washington Mutual looking to open up an IRA.  I don&#039;t know much about particular mutual funds...so he starts throwing out all these mutual funds that have high returns over the last decade or so, morningstar 5 star ratings....that&#039;s when I say....well I really want to do an index funds....he then says &quot;are you kidding?&quot;...I&#039;ve been doing this for 17 years and where are we?&quot;....I answer &quot;NY&quot;....he says &quot;No, Midtown Manhattan!&quot; in a jokingly way....I say &quot;Well I think I&#039;m looking for a long term approach&quot;....he says &quot;What are you 70?  I think you&#039;re making a big mistake&quot;....I then get a little nervous because he&#039;s giving me more mumbo jumbo that I don&#039;t really pay much attention to and then I say &quot;Well, what do you offer and what&#039;s the mgmt ratio&quot;...He says &quot;You know what I like about you?&quot;....I nod in a way as if I don&#039;t know what he&#039;s going to say....&quot;You&#039;re a young person asking good questions...guess what the mer is only 1.29 and guess what the returns always factor it in because it&#039;s a govt rule.&quot;...I say &quot;Ohh&quot; acting impressed but I&#039;m reallly not....he then says &quot;You see, so it&#039;s beating the s&amp;p avg by 2% over the last 30 years!...Tremendous, right?!&quot;....I say &quot;yes&quot;...he then says....&quot;Well, you have to have exposure&quot;..blah blah blah....and I say &quot;Ok give the paperwork because I don&#039;t want to make a rash decision&quot;....he then goes on to tell me how many clients he has and then tells me &quot;You know, so many people come to me during the year and they don&#039;t like their portfolio, so they ask me to change and sometimes guess what -- they&#039;re right!....I do change it, but if you don&#039;t ask it...then how will I know....You have to take care of your stuff&quot;...so thats when I interject with &quot;That&#039;s why I like the idea of the index funds....and plus the low mer....&quot;...and he disappointingly says &quot;Well, I gotta run, get back to me with what you want me to do&quot;....I take a deep sigh and walk out of the bank trying to stay unfazed.


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Good for you for asking the right questions. That&#039;s awesome.


-Ramit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Ramit, speaking of mutual funds, I go into my to the local Washington Mutual looking to open up an IRA.  I don&#8217;t know much about particular mutual funds&#8230;so he starts throwing out all these mutual funds that have high returns over the last decade or so, morningstar 5 star ratings&#8230;.that&#8217;s when I say&#8230;.well I really want to do an index funds&#8230;.he then says &#8220;are you kidding?&#8221;&#8230;I&#8217;ve been doing this for 17 years and where are we?&#8221;&#8230;.I answer &#8220;NY&#8221;&#8230;.he says &#8220;No, Midtown Manhattan!&#8221; in a jokingly way&#8230;.I say &#8220;Well I think I&#8217;m looking for a long term approach&#8221;&#8230;.he says &#8220;What are you 70?  I think you&#8217;re making a big mistake&#8221;&#8230;.I then get a little nervous because he&#8217;s giving me more mumbo jumbo that I don&#8217;t really pay much attention to and then I say &#8220;Well, what do you offer and what&#8217;s the mgmt ratio&#8221;&#8230;He says &#8220;You know what I like about you?&#8221;&#8230;.I nod in a way as if I don&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s going to say&#8230;.&#8221;You&#8217;re a young person asking good questions&#8230;guess what the mer is only 1.29 and guess what the returns always factor it in because it&#8217;s a govt rule.&#8221;&#8230;I say &#8220;Ohh&#8221; acting impressed but I&#8217;m reallly not&#8230;.he then says &#8220;You see, so it&#8217;s beating the s&#038;p avg by 2% over the last 30 years!&#8230;Tremendous, right?!&#8221;&#8230;.I say &#8220;yes&#8221;&#8230;he then says&#8230;.&#8221;Well, you have to have exposure&#8221;..blah blah blah&#8230;.and I say &#8220;Ok give the paperwork because I don&#8217;t want to make a rash decision&#8221;&#8230;.he then goes on to tell me how many clients he has and then tells me &#8220;You know, so many people come to me during the year and they don&#8217;t like their portfolio, so they ask me to change and sometimes guess what &#8212; they&#8217;re right!&#8230;.I do change it, but if you don&#8217;t ask it&#8230;then how will I know&#8230;.You have to take care of your stuff&#8221;&#8230;so thats when I interject with &#8220;That&#8217;s why I like the idea of the index funds&#8230;.and plus the low mer&#8230;.&#8221;&#8230;and he disappointingly says &#8220;Well, I gotta run, get back to me with what you want me to do&#8221;&#8230;.I take a deep sigh and walk out of the bank trying to stay unfazed.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>Good for you for asking the right questions. That&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p>-Ramit</p>
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