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		<title>By: Breaking long vlogs into chapters. Applause. &#171; Life is Physical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking long vlogs into chapters. Applause. &#171; Life is Physical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hoehn&#8217;s video had notes breaking the 9-minute vlog into chapters. So did Ramit Sethi&#8217;s post on 5 myths of personal finance. Now if only it were a bit easier to USE those chapter breaks. This, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hoehn&#8217;s video had notes breaking the 9-minute vlog into chapters. So did Ramit Sethi&#8217;s post on 5 myths of personal finance. Now if only it were a bit easier to USE those chapter breaks. This, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
		<link>http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/5-myths-of-personal-finance-plus-stupid-advice/comment-page-1/#comment-108691</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll take a look, and I appreciate the thoughtful reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take a look, and I appreciate the thoughtful reply.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramit, 

You seem like a nice guy with young credentials who likes to help people save a little money. I appreciate and respect that. 

RESOURCES: Journal of Indexes April 2009. Rob Arnott wrote an article on why bonds beat stocks with plenty of additional resources he sites for the case. He also is a well respected advisor to many funds including Claymore, Schwab, PowerShares and over a dozen more. He has influence on investment strategy to tens of billions of dollars. 

I will go one step further and suggest that the stock market as a way of passive investing is for lazy people. The simple philosophy of handing over your money for some person or organization to &quot;manage it&quot; for a fraction of 1% is ridiculous. To make your money grow you have to actively manage it. Know what you are investing in and when the leadership of the company is not doing their job, find another investment.

The one problem that I see is that most investment advisors/stockbrokers/financial gurus suggest that you invest your long term money in the market. As we all saw last year, every major asset class lost money. Investments should also include income producing real estate, small business ownership, notes, etc. The reason your typical financial advisor doesn&#039;t recommend this type of investment is that they don&#039;t get paid to do so. The investment world is bigger than stocks and bonds.

I am checking your book out from the library and will give it a review. Even with our differences, I think you are on the right track and people can learn from some of your ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramit, </p>
<p>You seem like a nice guy with young credentials who likes to help people save a little money. I appreciate and respect that. </p>
<p>RESOURCES: Journal of Indexes April 2009. Rob Arnott wrote an article on why bonds beat stocks with plenty of additional resources he sites for the case. He also is a well respected advisor to many funds including Claymore, Schwab, PowerShares and over a dozen more. He has influence on investment strategy to tens of billions of dollars. </p>
<p>I will go one step further and suggest that the stock market as a way of passive investing is for lazy people. The simple philosophy of handing over your money for some person or organization to &#8220;manage it&#8221; for a fraction of 1% is ridiculous. To make your money grow you have to actively manage it. Know what you are investing in and when the leadership of the company is not doing their job, find another investment.</p>
<p>The one problem that I see is that most investment advisors/stockbrokers/financial gurus suggest that you invest your long term money in the market. As we all saw last year, every major asset class lost money. Investments should also include income producing real estate, small business ownership, notes, etc. The reason your typical financial advisor doesn&#8217;t recommend this type of investment is that they don&#8217;t get paid to do so. The investment world is bigger than stocks and bonds.</p>
<p>I am checking your book out from the library and will give it a review. Even with our differences, I think you are on the right track and people can learn from some of your ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I explain this all in detail in my book.

Chris: There are so many things wrong with that comment I don&#039;t even know where to begin. In short: If you vary time periods, you can get the result you want. I notice you didn&#039;t link to any data supporting your assertion that bonds have outperformed. Can you link to those so we can see some data, not just opinions? And then can you adjust it two years backward and two years forward (run a basic simulation for good/bad future results)? Watch what happens -- I can easily use that data to prove whatever I want, so you want to pick a reliable data set and be very conscious about your time-period selection.

Second, DCA is explicitly acknowledging that you can&#039;t time the market. And asset allocation is why you pick multiple asset classes -- so you don&#039;t get stuck in something bad in the short term (like real estate) but also so you don&#039;t let today&#039;s anguished cries cover up tomorrow&#039;s opportunities. Again, this is covered in my book, which takes about 2 hours to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explain this all in detail in my book.</p>
<p>Chris: There are so many things wrong with that comment I don&#8217;t even know where to begin. In short: If you vary time periods, you can get the result you want. I notice you didn&#8217;t link to any data supporting your assertion that bonds have outperformed. Can you link to those so we can see some data, not just opinions? And then can you adjust it two years backward and two years forward (run a basic simulation for good/bad future results)? Watch what happens &#8212; I can easily use that data to prove whatever I want, so you want to pick a reliable data set and be very conscious about your time-period selection.</p>
<p>Second, DCA is explicitly acknowledging that you can&#8217;t time the market. And asset allocation is why you pick multiple asset classes &#8212; so you don&#8217;t get stuck in something bad in the short term (like real estate) but also so you don&#8217;t let today&#8217;s anguished cries cover up tomorrow&#8217;s opportunities. Again, this is covered in my book, which takes about 2 hours to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 02:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew is right in post 36. Not just bonds, but even treasuries have outperformed stocks over the last 40 years. 

I haven&#039;t read the book, but the &quot;traditional wisdom&quot; you subscribe to has not worked and will not work in the future (Dollar Cost Averaging, Modern Portfolio Theory, Asset Allocation - from Wall Street&#039;s point of view).

Let’s stop and think about it…DCA is trying to time the market. It is just a type of diversification strategy. However, you can time the market and make/ protect your money.

When we all saw real estate at its peak (or close to it), someone that prescribed to the Modern Portfolio Theory (along with DCA) they MUST put a portion of their portfolio into real estate. The same with financials…as Bear Sterns, Merril, Lehman all were about to fail, who DCA’d into them? 

That is why the old models of “DCA, Buy and Hold, MPT” are all out the window. You can get stable returns with little to no risk without exposing you entire portfolio to the whims of Wall Street…as the models of old require!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew is right in post 36. Not just bonds, but even treasuries have outperformed stocks over the last 40 years. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the book, but the &#8220;traditional wisdom&#8221; you subscribe to has not worked and will not work in the future (Dollar Cost Averaging, Modern Portfolio Theory, Asset Allocation &#8211; from Wall Street&#8217;s point of view).</p>
<p>Let’s stop and think about it…DCA is trying to time the market. It is just a type of diversification strategy. However, you can time the market and make/ protect your money.</p>
<p>When we all saw real estate at its peak (or close to it), someone that prescribed to the Modern Portfolio Theory (along with DCA) they MUST put a portion of their portfolio into real estate. The same with financials…as Bear Sterns, Merril, Lehman all were about to fail, who DCA’d into them? </p>
<p>That is why the old models of “DCA, Buy and Hold, MPT” are all out the window. You can get stable returns with little to no risk without exposing you entire portfolio to the whims of Wall Street…as the models of old require!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, check out this sweet Q&amp;A I found all about saving money and frugality...it&#039;s cool, it&#039;s with a journalist from thepopfix.com and the founder of youngandfrugal.com...it&#039;s worth a look!

http://thepopfix.com/2009/08/03/bowen/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, check out this sweet Q&amp;A I found all about saving money and frugality&#8230;it&#8217;s cool, it&#8217;s with a journalist from thepopfix.com and the founder of youngandfrugal.com&#8230;it&#8217;s worth a look!</p>
<p><a href="http://thepopfix.com/2009/08/03/bowen/" rel="nofollow">http://thepopfix.com/2009/08/03/bowen/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing:
I visit your website, but I have not read your book. So, if you do defend buy-and-hold in your book, then apologies for the harsh tone above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing:<br />
I visit your website, but I have not read your book. So, if you do defend buy-and-hold in your book, then apologies for the harsh tone above.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramit,
My challenge to you remains: tell people WHY investing in the stock market is such a great idea. You have to do a better job defending buy-and-hold - well, maybe you don&#039;t - but if you&#039;re advising buy-and-hold as I think you are, then you probably do. 
I saw your comment (#36), and I&#039;ll hazard a guess as to what that chapter you wrote says...does it talk about the disastrous consequences of missing the &quot;10 best days?&quot;
I&#039;ll put my two cents out there in the meantime:
First off, responding to the comment that said I had to show WHY the stock market is so terrible, that I had to show them an alternative better than &quot;gold and tin cans,&quot; I&#039;ll say this: BONDS HAVE OUTPERFORMED STOCKS OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS. 
As a more immediate and perhaps more painful example, we were hitting stock market levels in March 09 that we hadn&#039;t seen since 1996. Therefore, A SAVINGS ACCOUNT OUTPERFORMED THE STOCK OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. And, of course this says nothing of the difference in volatility between a savings account and the stock market.
Ramit, anybody, somebody, give a good defense of buy-and-hold. I&#039;ll listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramit,<br />
My challenge to you remains: tell people WHY investing in the stock market is such a great idea. You have to do a better job defending buy-and-hold &#8211; well, maybe you don&#8217;t &#8211; but if you&#8217;re advising buy-and-hold as I think you are, then you probably do.<br />
I saw your comment (#36), and I&#8217;ll hazard a guess as to what that chapter you wrote says&#8230;does it talk about the disastrous consequences of missing the &#8220;10 best days?&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;ll put my two cents out there in the meantime:<br />
First off, responding to the comment that said I had to show WHY the stock market is so terrible, that I had to show them an alternative better than &#8220;gold and tin cans,&#8221; I&#8217;ll say this: BONDS HAVE OUTPERFORMED STOCKS OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS.<br />
As a more immediate and perhaps more painful example, we were hitting stock market levels in March 09 that we hadn&#8217;t seen since 1996. Therefore, A SAVINGS ACCOUNT OUTPERFORMED THE STOCK OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. And, of course this says nothing of the difference in volatility between a savings account and the stock market.<br />
Ramit, anybody, somebody, give a good defense of buy-and-hold. I&#8217;ll listen.</p>
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		<title>By: MrsCasanova</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrsCasanova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, thanks for unvailing some myths here. Take Care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, thanks for unvailing some myths here. Take Care!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramit Sethi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramit Sethi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...except that over the long term, market timing doesn&#039;t work. See Chapter 6 of my book for extensive research on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except that over the long term, market timing doesn&#8217;t work. See Chapter 6 of my book for extensive research on this.</p>
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