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How I use beta tests to rapidly optimize new products

A couple days ago, I asked if you guys wanted to hear about the business side of iwillteachyoutoberich, and with 375+ comments, the response was an overwhelming yes.

Today, I’m going to share how I use beta tests to get rapid feedback on in-depth projects I’m creating. This will show you what I’m doing behind the scenes, and how you can use these same techniques for your entrepreneurial projects.

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What you’ll find in this guide

  • How I decide which products to build
  • Why a beta test? Using the 85% Solution when building products
  • The logistics of testing (and: Charging for a beta test? Are you crazy?)
  • Mistakes I’ve made in beta testing

“Rich” is about more than money

Although I Will Teach You To Be Rich sounds like a get-rich-quick scam, you know it’s not — it’s about living a rich life, with money as part of that. Since the early days of this blog, I’ve always emphasized that rich is about more than just money.

My book, I Will Teach You To Be Rich, crystallized my automation system and philosophy about money.

But there are so many areas that I want to cover, some of them dealing with money, some of them dealing with other ways to live a rich life. (As an interesting data point, the guest post on becoming a full-time traveler for $14,000/year was my most popular guest post — ever).

So I’ve been working on specific, in-depth projects that I hope will help you live a rich life. For example, they’ll include automation techniques and scripts you can use to earn more, save more, negotiate, get better service, etc. These are far more complex than a simple blog post. They involve significant research, months of writing, interviews and case studies, custom design, and lots of testing. And while it’s a lot of work, it’s too easy to be a commodity blogger who simply uses cheap tricks (5 posts/day!! Top 10 ways to…!! Look at the new ING interest rate!!) instead of taking the slow path to building something that you’ll be proud of in 10 years.

Now that I’ve set the context, let’s get to the part about building a beta program to test these.

How I decide which products to build

There are an infinite number of in-depth projects I could do. I could talk more about automation, walk people through my book and help them to change money attitudes/behaviors, help people negotiate, focus on debt reduction, show people the similarities between food and personal finance, and on and on.

Just like the infinite number of financial decisions we have when we wake up each morning — which invariably cause us to get overwhelmed and do nothing — I prefer to limit the scope to a few Big Wins.

I take two approaches when deciding which products to create.

  1. Listening to users. I get dozens of emails from iwillteachyoutoberich readers each day and I read every single one, trying to see what the patterns are. For example, people LOVE the scripts in my book…interesting. On the other hand, I get a lot fewer emails about debt reduction (probably because debt isn’t really my focus, if you have a lot of debt, there are better sites than iwillteachyoutoberich to handle it). Again, another data point.
  2. Intuition. After 5+ years of blogging, emailing, and meeting you guys in person, I think I have a pretty good idea of what you’ll respond to.

I admit that this is a luxury of having a large user base, but don’t commit the Shrug Effect and think you can’t do the same thing. I use this blog as a laboratory and test frequently to hone my intuition.

Once I come up with an idea, I don’t keep it secret — my idea is never good enough to keep secret. I start asking people around me what they think. Is it a problem for them? I’ll tweet it. I’ll search and see what else is out there.

The truth is, because iwillteachyoutoberich has grown so much, I could basically release anything and get some sales and interest from people. The point is not to release anything, though. I try to pick projects that will (1) optimize my returns and (2) make me proud of what I’ve built by helping a lot of people — and not just iwillteachyoutoberich readers, but outside people.

See also: My bookmarks for customer research.

Why a beta test? Using the 85% Solution when building products

Beta testing is a great way to test your product and get real feedback from people to let you iterate (or improve) on what you’ve got. Here’s how I do it.

Once I’ve decided on a product, I focus on building it. (More on that process later.) I do check in with a close group of friends along the way, but mostly it’s just heads-down to create something that I think will be useful. Whether it’s an ebook that I have to write, or a video product that I structure and record, my goal is build a skeleton that’s 85% complete.

Basically, it should be good enough that it can be used by people and get them very impressive results — but not be polished in terms of design, testimonials, outbound marketing, or even content, because I can do that later. Sometimes, the positioning may even be wildly off, but it’s good enough to send out to a small group for testing.

The point of testing is to validate the following:

  • Is this useful?
  • Is this better than anything on the market
  • Where do people get stuck? What’s their favorite part?
  • What kind of feedback/testimonials/impressive stats can I collect from people?

Usually by this stage, you don’t get a lot of catastrophic feedback that your product sucks. If so, something has gone very, very wrong in the product-creation and micro-testing process. But I ALWAYS get feedback on areas that are broken, not easy to understand, or can be improved.

The other thing I ask people is to go through the product, try every step of it, and give me explicit feedback on what works. In this stage, I’m looking for awesome testimonials I can use to put in the product so others can see how well it works.

So, bottom line: I’m trying to identify the weaknesses in the product, as well as get feedback on the strengths of the product. This is a classic product/marketing exercise that helps you stay on track and comes in very, very handy when it’s time to launch the product.

See also: My bookmarks on testimonials.

The logistics of testing (and: Charging for a beta test? Are you crazy?)

Here’s the fun stuff: How do you actually run these tests?

I’ve done it in a variety of ways. For my book launch, I created a pre-launch community where people could join a private community, get PDFs of the book before anyone else, and go through my 6-week bootcamp with a group of similarly aggressive people. Check out the original announcement.

For other projects, I’ll have people buy the 85%-complete product at a steep discount, work through it, and survey them with very specific questions on what works and what doesn’t.

The commonality is this: For beta testers, I always look for qualified people. This means paying in some way, whether pre-ordering my book or buying the product at a large discount.

Why do I charge for beta tests?
Because I’m looking for the type of people who will pay for value — these are the same types of people who will pay for the product when it launches at full price. If I opened it up to anyone for free testing, I’d get 100x the response rate, but the type of tester would be totally different than the real customers. In other words, people who pay are far more likely to actually open, use, and give feedback on a beta test. I have statistics to back this up by unimaginably huge margins, which I’ll share later.

The beta price actually doesn’t matter — usually I’ll offer steep discounts for the beta product when it will end up costing many times that on launch day, and I always offer generous money-back guarantees if it doesn’t work. The point is simply to separate the serious people from curious looky-loos who will never buy the product, anyway.

I also intentionally limit the number of testers to keep it small yet ensure I get enough responses. (For example, if I need 10 testimonials over 5 different topics, most people won’t give you really superb quotes, so you need a lot more than 10 people.)

In exchange for paying a dramatically reduced price, they get early access to a product that’s 85% complete (and presumably works very well), a chance to give feedback and shape the final polish of the product, and we all get a chance to interact via webcast and share feedback about ways to make it better. I usually send them a copy of the final product in exchange for their help.

Bottom line: In exchange for their feedback, beta testers get early access to the product, a dramatically reduced price, and the ability to help shape the final version — and usually the final version of the product for no additional charge.

More about logistics
I usually get beta testers from my newsletter list. This is because of (1) qualification strategy and (2) I can track clicks, opens, and the entire engagement funnel more closely. More on these in future posts.

When newsletter subscribers join the beta program, I add them to a separate email list where I send them automatic followup messages to get their feedback about the product via email, survey, and even video or Twitter. I share some of the best feedback with others because collecting feedback is difficult — people often don’t know how to articulate their feedback, so showing examples helps.

I collect people’s name/email address because there are often a few people — usually 2%-5% — whose feedback is so outstanding that I personally reach out to them to chat with them over the phone, put together an interview, etc. This helps not only the product development, but marketing for the launch.

Mistakes I’ve made

I’ve made a lot of stupid mistakes in running beta tests. The most common is simply working on too many projects, so I end up with 4 of them stuck at 70%, while nothing is getting completed. To help that, I’ve brought someone on to help me project-manage and kick my ass to get things out the door and prioritize better.

Other mistakes I’ve made with beta testing:

  • Not planning the beta test in advance of launch. If you try to do run a beta program without planning how it will flow beforehand, you will run into lots of problems and wish you were dead. Also, you’ll be so busy polishing the product that you won’t have time to build the beta program on the fly, and your feedback will suffer. Now, I do it beforehand and automate it as much as possible.

  • Not creating buckets for feedback. One dumb mistake was when I forgot to specify where the feedback should go. It all went to my email inbox, which was a mess. Now, responses go to specific buckets. For example, I might collect “day 5″ feedback in one Surveymonkey, and I’ll collect “day 10″ in another Surveymonkey. This makes it really easy to find the right feedback/testimonials when we’re ready to iterate.
  • Not thanking the beta testers! It’s thrilling to get real feedback on the project you’ve been working on for so long. Once you get beta responses, it’s off to the races to complete it and launch. I’ve forgotten to take some time to thank the beta testers for taking a risk and helping with feedback, and that was a mistake. Always be sure to thank the people who helped get you the final 20%

So, that’s an overview of how I run beta tests with new projects coming out on I Will Teach You To Be Rich.

Coming up: Beta invites for 2 new domination guides

I’ll be releasing a number of beta products in the next few days. I send beta announcements out via my email list, so if you want access to the beta tests, sign up for the free list below.


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Do you guys want to hear more about the business side of iwillteachyoutoberich?

I’ve been thinking about this a lot and I want to get your feedback.

For a while now, behind the scenes, I’ve been working on a bunch of projects to create several in-depth projects/products for you that I’ll be rolling out over the next few months. These are specific projects with more scripts that you can use to dominate, techniques for earning money (like the earn money bootcamp I hinted about), recommendations for the best accounts, etc. Some are free, some will be paid.

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Believe it. Amazingly accurate cartoon (and brilliant marketing strategy) by the guys at Creditcardfinder.com.au

So…

I was just planning to announce them when they were ready, but I just realized you might want to see stuff like:

  • How I come up with product ideas
  • How I decide when to charge (e.g., with The Scrooge Strategy and my book) vs. offer stuff for free (blog, Twitter, YouTube, newsletter, etc)
  • How to set pricing
  • How I do market analysis and craft a marketing plan — including online and offline
  • When to hire other people vs. doing it yourself

Stuff like that.

This is more related to entrepreneurship than personal finance, but I think it’s relevant to iwillteachyoutoberich readers: It demonstrates how to take a simple idea (personal finance for young people) and build a business (and income) around it.

Leave a comment to let me know if you’re interested in seeing what I’m doing behind the scenes. If you guys are interested, I’ll do some occasional posts on the business side of iwillteachyoutoberich.

If not, no hard feelings. Just let me know in the comments!

[Edit] Lots of “Yes” comments below, so let me know specifically what topics you’d like me to cover.

[Edit] The first post is up: How I use beta tests to rapidly optimize new products

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“Ugh, why don’t fat people just eat less?”

If you’ve heard an ignorant comment like that, you’ve probably been to any of a thousand online forums.

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People love to demonize others for overspending and overeating, especially behind the anonymity of online commenting. Nothing drives me crazier than people who ignore decades of research to judge others for their supposed lack of willpower.

This is why you’ll see the personal-responsibility zealots who repeatedly chant, “Ugh, let’s talk about personal responsibility,” as if that simplistic argument explains why people who genuinely want to spend and eat less simply cannot.

This superb New York Times article offers more evidence of ancillary factors in behavioral change:

“I have grave concerns about how many of these television shows stigmatize overweight people by making them a spectacle,” said Kelly D. Brownell, director of the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale. “They suggest that if you only try hard enough you can be thin. A far better message is that it’s hard to lose weight and that it’s not just willpower and personal responsibility, but that both biology and the environment are players.”

I’ve written about the similarities between food and personal finance before.

Former FDA commissioner David Kessler has written a terrific book describing how food companies systematically engineer foods to overeaten (including designing foods that can be swallowed quicker so we can consumer more and more in one sitting). These are tested, refined, and optimized processes, not mere accidents.

Most importantly, behavioral change is not simply about trying harder. Yes, effort is important, but whether it’s passive barriers or the variety of other reasons that illustrate how personal finance is not about more willpower, let’s be real: Behavioral change is incredibly complex and difficult.

Anyone who believes people overeat and overspend simply because of a lack of willpower is simplistically ignoring decades of research so they can ideologically mislead themselves.


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Sell It Now — how to make hundreds of dollars in 37 minutes

Today, tips on how we’ve earned $1,000 over the last two months from selling things on eBay. Plus, we surveyed readers who make more than $1,000/month using eBay (including one who earned $50,000 over the last year), and we spoke to a senior executive at eBay to get insider tips.

Below, you’ll find:

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Over the past few months, I’ve been working on a few projects with my friend Susan. (You’ll be seeing those projects soon.)

One day, I mentioned that I was going to be selling a few things on eBay and she looked at me skeptically. We’re both fans of Big Wins, so I understand the skepticism — can you really earn a lot using eBay?

But it also surprised me how reluctant she was to try it, since she’s a master of earning more money (she negotiated thousands of dollars for a new job and routinely receives freelance offers).

We decided to spend some time creating a useful guide to show how you can earn significant amounts of money using eBay. I’ve earned over $1,000 in the last 2 months by selling stuff there.

Rather than just writing generic advice, Susan went to the source: a senior executive at eBay. We also asked I Will Teach You To Be Rich readers who’ve earned over $1,000 on eBay to share their specific tactics for selling at higher prices.

Here’s an excerpt of what she learned.

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eBay: too much work, too little gain.

True or false?

You’ve heard Ramit talk about the CEO model. Saving more money isn’t just about cutting spending, and your income ISN’T always fixed.

You probably already know that you can sell some stuff on eBay, but, like me, you probably also haven’t gotten around to doing it. What’s the point of learning and getting involved in a whole new system if all you’ll get out of it is $15 for a pair of your Sevens jeans?

I was thinking the same thing you’re thinking:

Too much work, too little gain

Then recently, I ended up having a phone conversation with Jim Griffith, the dean of eBay University. Griff teaches thousands of people how to use eBay as a platform to build their businesses, was personally hired by Pierre Omidyar (one of the eBay co-founders) as one of their earliest community / customer focused employees (15 years ago), and has been an expert seller since eBay got started.

After Griff shared a few really good tricks and tips with me, I started to feel bad about being such a hypocrite about eBay.

“Your income’s not fixed, earn more don’t just save” … I’d say these things to my friends all the time, but I never lifted a single finger towards it.

So, I decided I’d list something to see exactly how much work and how little gain it would be.

We ask the experts

Before setting up my listing, Ramit and I asked a few IWillTeach readers who’ve made upwards of $1,000 on eBay to share their secrets.

Here’s how they optimize their eBay sales, in order of importance:

1. Pictures

2. Description

3. Research

4. Timing + Reserves

5. What to sell

Case study: How to earn money on eBay

With all these tips in mind, I decided to go for it myself.

Here’s exactly how I did it (with screenshots):

Step 1: Sign up for an eBay account

Signing up for an eBay account

This was very straightforward. If you know how to use email and read this blog, then you don’t need additional explanation.

Total time: 2 min

Step 2: Find something to sell

Selling my Seychelles shoes on eBay

Almost everyone has something lying around for eBay. Last month, for example, Ramit sold his broken laptop (the one he ruined with a latte, of all things) for $661. (In fact, he used an assistant to do the market research, write the eBay page, and ship it, but that’s a story for another time).

Apparently, someone out there knew how to fix it. This highlights one of the greatest things about eBay – its wide reach means that you’re likely to find a buyer for almost anything that you have to sell. While most people don’t have tons of spare high-value electronics laying around, you probably do have something else. As for me, I had these too-big shoes in my closet that I’d never worn.

Remember, the point of this post to understand and optimize the process, so let’s use the shoes as an example.

Step 3: Research

Under Step 3 Research

I didn’t want to make the mistake of setting an arbitrary price based on emotions, or not knowing what the hot keywords are for describing these shoes.

Here’s how I researched:

  1. Searched for the product name with Google Product Search [ Seychelles Share the Wealth ]
  2. Looked at the top 5 ecommerce sites selling the product. This gave me the price AND, more important, lots of details about the shoe and the brand to put in the description to make it look super professional.
  3. Saw the item I have has one major distinction – a hard-to-find color. I’ll highlight this in the description.

Note: it’s hard to Google ‘value of broken laptop,’ but in this case, Ramit’s damaged computer was making $0 sitting on his shelf. Remember the tip about pricing at $0.99 we heard from our power seller-it’s always better to make some money from your item than to get all emotionally attached to it and not make any at all.

Time: 5 min

Step 4: Market it

Since I already did the research, this was the easy part. I took photos and then determined the title and description copy from the other sites I saw that were selling this product, making sure to highlight the major distinction (its color) along with the standard brand distinction.

I took the reader tip and decided to list on a Thursday, for a 10-day auction to get in two weekends’ worth of eyeballs.

Here’s what I did:

  1. Borrowed the title and best descriptions from the other sites I saw. (5 min)
  2. Took photos and did some minor editing. (10 min)

Note: when Ramit was trying to sell off his broken laptop, he used brand identification (it was an Apple Macbook), photos of the actual item being sold, and added an honest, thorough description – ‘this laptop has some damage, but it’s definitely reparable and it’s a steal if you know how.’ The brand name draws in lots of viewers, and the honest, thorough description targets the listing to just the right person who’ll end up loving the purchase.

Time: 15 min

Step 5: List it

Listing my first eBay item

eBay makes this really easy. I chose to offer free shipping because this attracts more buyers. I bundled the estimated shipping cost into the price of the item.

Time: 5 min

Step 6: Fulfillment

It’s really, really important to get those good seller ratings, even if you’re not quitting your day job. Fullfillment means being a reliable seller, packager, and shipper, and getting the item to your buyer ASAP.

Time: 10 min

Total time: 37 min

My completed eBay seller's listing

Bonus tip from my interview with Griff

When I asked Griff for any secrets on getting inventory to sell on eBay, he told me, “think local.”

Instead of thinking only about how to sell YOUR stuff on eBay (like your old stereo, computer, designer jeans), think about how to make a micro business selling OTHER stuff on eBay, that you obtain locally, such as….

Audio excerpt

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If you liked this tip, we’ve put together an even MORE detailed guide to earn money using eBay

Get more tips to earn money on eBay. We’ve put together an even more in-depth article on earning money using eBay on Scrooge Strategy.

Want to learn more about how the power sellers make money on eBay? You’ll get the full 23:01 recording of Susan’s interview with eBay University Dean Jim Griffith, more in-depth tactical tips to earn more using eBay, and a premium tip on saving and earning money every week by subscribing to The Scrooge Strategy.

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This was a guest post by Susan Su. Susan is a writer, marketer, designer, Twitterer, and Stanford alum. She wants bloggers to make beautiful ebooks, startups to make it big, and you to make more money. She can help with all that.

65 comments — Written on September 17, 2009 in Earning more, Personal entrepreneurship.

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Working on the UK edition of I Will Teach You To Be Rich

I’ve been working on the UK edition of my book and laughed out loud when I saw these edits from my UK editor:

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Ice lolly? Awww. What other funny words can I learn?

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39 comments — Written on September 17, 2009 in Miscellaneous.

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Why do delusional people think their spending will be different than other people’s?

It is an indisputable fact that anyone who drives a BMW 2-door coupe is an asshole. They talk on their phone loudly, drive recklessly, and wear extremely large sunglasses. In fact, an even better litmus test is observing how these drivers park: If they back into a parking spot instead of parking nose-first like normal people do, you can be 100% certain that you have an asshole on your hands.

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Photo by puyo

To find supporting evidence for my theory, I Googled “bmw asshole” and got 1,500+ responses, including this one. I rest my case.

There has only been one exception (he was a startup CTO…who by definition cannot be an asshole). Also, Asians don’t count because they don’t drive BMWs.

The point is this: There are patterns you can recognize. We like to believe we’re individual and different, but the entire field of social psychology illustrates how we mistakenly believe we’re in control of our own lives while systematically underestimating situational and social influence.

As we get older, the vast majority of us fall into predictable patterns: We become more conservative with our investments. We have kids. We spend on things we never imagined we would (like window treatments, homeowners’ insurance, and childcare).

Recently, I wrote a post about the 10 Year Savings Strategy, where I recommended that people who are already saving and investing and maxing out their retirement accounts do one simple thing: Find some people who are 10 years older and ask them what they wish they’d saved for. Then start saving for those things.

This isn’t as sexy as alternative investments or currency arbitrage, but it works. It also forces us to confront the fact that most of us will live very similar lives as everyone else. We’ll start really paying attention to our money around age 40. Our wedding cost will be far higher than we planned. We’ll buy a house.

Sure, there are exceptions. But chances are you’re not going to be one of them. None of us is.

The comments that people submitted to the post were some of the most interesting and infuriating I can remember, prompting me to write a 456-word comment in response. Here are a few selected comments from the original post:

Delusional Guy:

“First of all, I’m not getting married. No, this isn’t just the talk of someone who can’t see far enough into the future. We all know the only benefit of getting married is in avoiding divorce. If you get divorced, you’re screwed. For anyone who would ever put themselves into that situation, I have no sympathy because it is completely avoidable. Marriage is a contract and (especially for guys) if you enter into it, you will be on the losing end from the get go. You recommend getting advice from your elders. What do they tell me? Don’t get married. That’s some advice I’ll be taking because I care too much about my assets.

Actually I see kids as a complete waste of money, time, and freedom. There are many people out there who live child free (and loving it) and I will be one of them. Don’t believe it? Believe it when i get a vasectomy sometime in the near future.”

Smart Person Who Understands The Point of the Post, Not Just The Superficial Words

“Ramit, I really liked this. The take-away was still the same despite that I don’t intend to have children (and neither does my g/f). Plan for large expenses I will encounter on my path in life, whether or not it’s children or lots of travel or whatever hobby I choose. The action is not, “save for children.” The action is: ask and try to predict what your major expenses will be in 10 years and save for it. Don’t think you’re going to be above average and beat the system. Reality is sometimes harsh on us 20-somethings. Realize I am not an exception to every rule. Realize that reality will bite me sometimes and I will want to be prepared.”

Hilarious Person I Want To Marry

“Good lord….To pretend you know exactly what you want now (at say, 25) for when you are 50 is the equivalent of adamantly stating when you are 5 that you hate all boys/girls and will never like them. It’s utterly ridiculous. All you can do is acknowledge that your current self cannot predict everything that will happen in your life, or everything that you will want, but it’s probably going to cost more than you think. So instead of spending so much energy being defensive, why don’t you critically think about his point, and whether you want to apply it to your finances?”

And finally, here’s the response that I left in the comments:

“Exactly. Some phenomenal comments on this post and some very, very stupid ones.

The most absurd thing about many of the negative comments is the inability to take a strategy or tactic and apply it to the commenters’ own lives. If you’re not going to get married (which you probably are, despite what you think now), you’re still going to have many other expenses that you simply can’t predict yet. If you claim you’re determined to have a frugal wedding (which many people say, by the way), then the question to ask is this: “Under what conditions might I find significant future expenses that I didn’t predict?” Ever hear of the hedonic treadmill?

I’m willing to bet one of the commenters who complained this post is “obvious” hasn’t cut costs, automated, created a Conscious Spending Plan, earned more, optimized his spending, maxed out investments, and created sub-accounts for his future 10+ year spending. I’m not being sarcastic — if you have, please let me know and I’ll call you because I’d love to profile you for my readers.

“Obvious” doesn’t mean “easy.” But that’s the point of the post, isn’t it?

As commenter Sara said:

“To pretend you know exactly what you want now (at say, 25) for when you are 50 is the equivalent of adamantly stating when you are 5 that you hate all boys/girls and will never like them. It’s utterly ridiculous. All you can do is acknowledge that your current self cannot predict everything that will happen in your life, or everything that you will want, but it’s probably going to cost more than you think. So instead of spending so much energy being defensive, why don’t you critically think about his point, and whether you want to apply it to your finances?”

Now that I’m writing, let me go on a little bit: One key insight of writing a blog for a large audience has been how entitled people feel in getting a tip that’s exactly written for their specific situation. “I’m 60 and widowed!” people say. Or, “But I’m gonna have a vasectomy!”

A post addressing your specific situation is not going to happen here — you need to use your imagination and think about how to apply them to your life. And I’m not going to water down this blog with equivocations and qualifications (as ec213 points out).

The sad thing about this is the smart people already know this. I have to write this comment for whiners who (1) constantly complain about this site, (2) will never buy anything, and (3) repeatedly threaten to leave.

With that said, I LOVED writing this post and I love reading these comments even more. Look for MORE posts like this.”

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By planning to live an ordinary life, you give yourself the means to be extraordinary.

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68 comments — Written on September 8, 2009 in Investor psychology, Rants about dumb people, Saving.

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